JFK Postmortem /Medical Evidence

The Bio on Speer is he makes great arguments against the magic bullet, which we already know didn't happen, then he posts these long-winded theories of a top of the head exit wound /rear entry. It doesn't really matter if Speers really believes it or not it's a waste of time and there's so much to study. All the Parkland docs saw the rear wound, so did the Bethesda ones who were there when the body arrived (before post-mortem surgery), and the knoll witnesses saw huge debris flying out from the rear of his head. ** This wasn't the point of the movie but Speer also gives his theory on the mystery autopsy photo Fox 8 which Horne & Mantik think is (the only surviving copy of) the rear blowout. Speer explains what he thinks well in person (in writing, no so well) and better than Horne but I doubt he's right, since ultimately his interpretation is 26 doctors at a top research hospital imagined a giant hole in the back of JFK's head that wasn't there, including Crenshaw and McClelland: https://rumble.com/v6u4i3l-dr-crenshaw-before-we-placed-jfk-in-the-coffin-i-looked-at-the-wound-again-.html https://rumble.com/v6ul8k1-the-dallas-doctors-and-the-autopsy-fraud-mcclelland-and-crenshaw-then-peter.html https://rumble.com/v6v1vtl-parkland-docs-v-humes-and-boswell-on-jfks-extruding-cerebellum.html https://rumble.com/v6v2tip-horne-crudele-2-the-5-shots-and-possible-6th-supporting-medical-evidence-ex.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp_pl%2Csrc_v1_pl&playlist_id=VUNBE8wuRxE https://rumble.com/playlists/VhO4twhF3cQ Speer and David Josephs debate Hofeling on HOrne's theory, and what they think, here: https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/31173-doug-horne-on-autopsy-photo-fox-8-the-mystery-photograph/ I could not not understand this at all from Horne and Mantik but that thread made sense of it for me. Looking at the two arguments is a good way to make it come to life and visualize it. Discussion of Speers' theory: https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/31068-the-mystery-photo-and-the-pat-speer-analysis/

From Horne's movie The JFK SKull X-Rays, A Trail of Deceit Keven Hofeling: "Here's a timestamped bullet point summary of the transcript: - 2:06 - Horne introduces what researchers call the "mystery photo," explaining that its orientation has historically caused various arguments among researchers. - 2:35 - He explains that the widely circulated "bootleg" version of this photo (shown in a gray box) was created by Secret Service agent James K. Fox in 1963, but this version was cropped compared to the full image in the National Archives. - 3:23 - The uncropped version in the Archives shows additional features, including abdominal wall fat that was retracted during the autopsy, which helps establish the body's orientation. - 3:56 - Dr. Mantik and Dr. Chesser confirmed through stereoscopic examination at the Archives that President Kennedy's right eyebrow and eyelashes are visible in the image, proving it shows his forehead. They could also see his right nipple in the uncropped version. - 5:14 - The photo shows a man-made incision in Kennedy's forehead, which appears bright red and is clearly visible in both color and black-and-white versions. - 5:59 - Horne explains that this incision was made by Dr. Humes before the autopsy began, evidently to remove evidence of a frontal entrance wound above the right eye. - 6:30 - Horne interprets a feature in the photo as a small exit defect created by fragments from the forehead bullet. - 7:00 - He notes that Dr. Humes initially testified to the Warren Commission that there was no evidence of exit wounds anywhere in the periphery of the large skull wound. - 7:16 - However, in January 1967, when reviewing photos for the Justice Department, Humes, Boswell, and Finck changed their position and identified evidence of an exit wound by labeling the photograph as being of the "posterior skull." - 8:00 - Horne disputes Dr. Baden's interpretation that Kennedy was lying face down, arguing this orientation is incorrect based on the photographic evidence. - 9:36 - The lecture concludes with Horne's interpretation that the photo shows where the "Harper fragment" (a piece of skull) fit into the head, and explains that the forehead entry wound would have been hidden in Kennedy's hair at Parkland Hospital. ________________ Original Source: 'New "Director's Cut" of THE JFK SKULL X-RAYS, 1963 and 1979: A TRAIL OF DECEIT' | Douglas Horne with More on the JFK Assassination | Jan 27, 2025 | https://youtu.be/5oeFn7pjsek?si=6uTc-Lzd8FsfPaOV This presentation was originally posted on another YouTube site in August of 2024, but I want everyone to know that this "new edit," completed in January of 2025, is a greatly improved version, characterized by a MAJOR CONTENT CHANGE (regarding the forehead bullet that hit JFK), and by numerous audio and video upgrades. So it is well worth watching, in my opinion, even if you have already viewed the first version posted in August of 2024. The raw footage was filmed in Los Angeles on December 7, 2023; and after the initial editing was completed in California, it was first posted on YouTube in August of 2024. It is a deep dive into the interpretive and analytical work of two bonafide experts on JFK's skull x-rays: Dr. David Mantik, and Dr. Mike Chesser. Both men have made repeat visits to the National Archives to view the JFK autopsy materials (with the permission of the Kennedy family representative), and are eminently qualified to interpret and analyze what is seen in the extant JFK skull x-rays and the JFK autopsy photographs. [Six skull x-rays were exposed; only three survive today.] This presentation is my layman's attempt to present the highlights of their findings in both a format, and in non-technical language, understandable to other laypersons who---like me---do not have medical degrees, or a degree in physics. The high-resolution digital images of JFK's skull x-rays used in this presentation were obtained by Dr. Chesser from the National Archives, and are far superior to the skull x-ray images published in my 2009 book, Inside the ARRB (which are scanned photocopies of the paper images published by the HSCA in 1979). Following the end of the powerpoint on JFK's skull x-rays, I have included about 30 minutes of additional discussion of some of the more controversial autopsy photographs; commentary on some of the most important and revealing eyewitness wound diagrams of the damage to JFK's skull caused by the bullets in Dallas; and an in-depth discussion of Dr. Boswell's free-hand sketch (of the damage to the top of JFK's skull) found on the reverse side of the Autopsy Descriptive Sheet. Four different people have provided significant support in bringing this presentation to fruition: independent JFK researcher and author Peter Janney of Boston, Massachusetts; two close friends in Los Angeles involved in the video's production and post-production (who wish to remain anonymous)." Discussion/explanation: https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/31173-doug-horne-on-autopsy-photo-fox-8-the-mystery-photograph/

Suggested listening in the closing part of his horne interview: https://rumble.com/playlists/VUNBE8wuRxE Then we'll get back into the Zapruder controversy: was it altered (Horne/Mantik), or fabricated completely (Costella)? I don't think it would make sense to make the whole thing up, that would be too much work for no reason when there's actually footage that can be worked with.

Both Hearings (the next one will go up here too): https://rumble.com/playlists/MWVg2WNQAW8

Earlier rear entry: https://rumble.com/v6uesbn-horne-shot-1-from-dal-tex-to-lower-rear-of-skull.html The question which this answers is why the rear exit would be on the right side and not the left, if the shot came from the right/grassy knoll. The question this doesn't answer, unless I missed something, is how the exit debris hit the motorcycles on the left if the shot exited through the right. The first thing to take in mind is the Z film is altered and may or may not be accurate of which way JFK's head tilted. If accurate, JFK's head was tilted AWAY from knoll as the bullet hit, which makes even less sense of the debris hitting Hargis on the left, with the exit wound pointed at a steeper angle toward the knoll. (Fiester says that shot would have to come from far side of steet/the South Knoll: rumble.com/user/johncleer?q=fiester) This suggests the Z Film is not real OR that the skull debris came not from the huge exit wound but the upward shot that landed high above the right eye, as seen in stare of death Parkland photo: https://rumble.com/v6v1tuz-dark-legacy-nyt-reports-on-112263-drs-perry-and-clark-saw-right-side-front-.html https://rumble.com/v6uesm7-doug-horne-on-the-likely-shot-from-storm-drain-2-or-3-to-high-right-forehea.html https://rumble.com/v6uesz9-pre-existing-fbi-report-disputes-wc-on-limo-location-storm-drain-best-expla.html So it's hard to imagine a clean answer for the debris exiting the right wide of the skull then hitting the DPD on the left.