Discussion with Joel on PSA

Joel Burgess recently commented on my PSA video https://www.youtube.com/live/Rq3BTb_YvGE?si=6GlFUlJTDmennuXr He disagreed with me on PSA but then started making some comments that made me concerned that he didn't understand the gospel so I invited him to talk to me about it. You can see all his comments and mine below the video but they are not appearing the right order for me, so you might have to figure out the right order. You should still have a good idea of the flow of the conversation though. Full playlist https://rumble.com/playlists/XV4FdjMFCoo

Joel commented on a video I did about Penal Substitutionary Atonement (PSA) disagreeing with it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq3BTb_YvGE&t=5s Full playlist https://rumble.com/playlists/XV4FdjMFCoo

We are talking because Joel responded on a video I did about PSA. Full playlist https://rumble.com/playlists/XV4FdjMFCoo

Joel commented on my video about Penal Substitutionary Atonement https://www.youtube.com/live/Rq3BTb_YvGE?si=eDEqPApchVvAAp_g so we started this conversation. Full playlist https://rumble.com/playlists/XV4FdjMFCoo

Joel and I have been discussing Penal Substitutionary Atonement. I agree with it and he does not. Today we hope to dig into Isaiah 53, God willing.

Continuing from https://www.youtube.com/live/Rq3BTb_YvGE?t=651s EDIT: Well we tried and Joel sidetracked us on numerous other issues. Theories of time and all sorts of things. Still a very interesting conversation though, I believe. Playlist:

Joel believes PSA is unbiblical. I agree with Penal Substitutionary Atonement, the idea that Jesus was punished in our place and paid the penalty for our sin. But we also discuss a lot of other ideas as we talk.

My discussions with Joel started because Joel commented on a video I made defending Penal Substitutionary Atonement (PSA - the idea that Jesus was punished in our place), and Joel disagreed. So I invited him to discuss it. We have rarely spent the primary focus discussing PSA, but it has been very interesting to me and Joel keeps coming back, so we keep going. Here is the whole playlist. https://rumble.com/playlists/XV4FdjMFCoo And the original video - https://www.youtube.com/live/Rq3BTb_YvGE