The Bret Lueder Show Episode #2 with Guests Joe Jordan and Pastor Dave Bryan

In Episode #2 I get to ask Joe Jordan of www.ce4reasearch.org about his ongoing experiment involving the halting of Alien/UFO abductions using the name of Jesus. Then Dave Bryan, author of the book, the Serpent and the Saviour, the story of the defeat of the founder of the Church of Satan, Anton LaVey, explains his first UFO experience and how that relates to demons. www.churchofgladtidings.com Both gentlemen had known about each other but had not met until this segment. Science meets religion in this fascinating 45-minute talk.

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