"We have the idea we're resisting this really strong thing, but the global order is disintegrating"

"On the question of what can be done, we get bound up in the idea we're resisting this really strong thing... but it's not a really strong thing... the global order is disintegrating"

Watch our full debate from London here: https://youtu.be/AGRJZeeGr1w

Also on Rumble: https://rumble.com/v1pnx05-is-a-great-reset-inevitable-together-talks-debate-live-from-london.html