Revenge of the Scapegoat | with Luke Burgis

I talk with Luke Burgis, an author and expert of René Girard. He's written a
book called 'Wanting: the Power of Mimetic Desire in Everyday Life'. Today we
discuss Girard, the problem and solution of sacrifice, Christianity, desire
and rivalry, our modern concern for victims after the World Wars, the
formation of Antichrist, cancel culture and more. Enjoy. Luke Burgis' book,
'Wanting: the Power of Mimetic Desire in Everyday Life':
[https://www.amazon.com/Wanting-Power-...](https://www.amazon.com/Wanting-
Power-Mimetic-Desire-Everyday/dp/1250262488/) Luke's Substack:
<https://read.lukeburgis.com/> Luke's website and newsletter:
<https://lukeburgis.com/> ======= Timestamps:
[00:00:00](https://youtu.be/fItOlHFQHbw?t=0) \- Coming up next...
[00:01:00](https://youtu.be/fItOlHFQHbw?t=60) \- Intro music
[00:01:24](https://youtu.be/fItOlHFQHbw?t=84) \- Introduction
[00:01:47](https://youtu.be/fItOlHFQHbw?t=107) \- Girard and desire
[00:03:27](https://youtu.be/fItOlHFQHbw?t=207) \- The desire for transcendence
[00:06:22](https://youtu.be/fItOlHFQHbw?t=382) \- Mimetic desire
[00:09:12](https://youtu.be/fItOlHFQHbw?t=552) \- The Influencer: the desire
vortex [00:11:01](https://youtu.be/fItOlHFQHbw?t=661) \- Love/hate rivalry
[00:12:42](https://youtu.be/fItOlHFQHbw?t=762) \- Different kinds of
transcendence [00:14:01](https://youtu.be/fItOlHFQHbw?t=841) \- Sports
[00:15:13](https://youtu.be/fItOlHFQHbw?t=913) \- Collapsing hierarchy and
difference [00:18:24](https://youtu.be/fItOlHFQHbw?t=1104) \- Girard and
sacrifice [00:23:03](https://youtu.be/fItOlHFQHbw?t=1383) \- How to understand
Christian sacrifice [00:30:13](https://youtu.be/fItOlHFQHbw?t=1813) \-
Cannibalism and suicide [00:33:48](https://youtu.be/fItOlHFQHbw?t=2028) \- A
familiar enough sacrifice [00:37:50](https://youtu.be/fItOlHFQHbw?t=2270) \-
The sacrifices of WW2 [00:42:21](https://youtu.be/fItOlHFQHbw?t=2541) \-
Things hidden since the foundation
[00:46:54](https://youtu.be/fItOlHFQHbw?t=2814) \- The concern for victims
[00:49:44](https://youtu.be/fItOlHFQHbw?t=2984) \- Girard's Antichrist
[00:51:13](https://youtu.be/fItOlHFQHbw?t=3073) \- Honoring the scapegoat
[00:58:25](https://youtu.be/fItOlHFQHbw?t=3505) \- The personification of evil
[01:00:58](https://youtu.be/fItOlHFQHbw?t=3658) \- The scapegoat mechanism
evolving [01:09:21](https://youtu.be/fItOlHFQHbw?t=4161) \- Hypocrisy
[01:10:08](https://youtu.be/fItOlHFQHbw?t=4208) \- The miracle of breaking the
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