Free Associations

Kevan and Chris get back to exploring how active and ex LDS could still see many things in very similar ways if some religious language is granted.

Inside Baseball Backstory. The Midnight Mormons took our two guests today to task for making a rap song with a video making fun of Jim Bennett's "progmo" status (JIm is the Writer of the rebuttal to Letter to a CES Director, Motab Choir Member, Son of Senator Bob Bennett, Mayoral Candidate of Provo). It was all considered "beyond the pale" by Jim Bennett who is hosting his own channel now supposedly "modeling" how he can grovel to ex-mormons and that will be showing how to do proper, non-contentious internet behavior, while mouthing off to anyone else who crosses his path.

Back Story Here-2 Semi Long Live Streams:
The Trial of Jim Bennett
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7oVht1J-zw&t=1509s
The Trial of Guatemax
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sIVenQzM7g&t=1774s

Guatemax introduces us to Leiland Tanner, the rapper who made the song that she turned into a meme that was put on trial on the Midnight Mormon channel. We start looking at how he incorporates Theosophy, Gnosticisms and Hermeticism into LDS thought and where it may fit right in, and/or where it might turn heretical. These ideas are something Kevan and I have been very interested in. Some of them we are quite trepidatious about, others we find really interesting......This issue is at the crux of much of the in-fighting with Kwaku. There are some disagreements about how those ideas should be situated within the hierarchy of LDS belief.
How that all played out, we are a little in the dark about but, Guatemax says she will give us a short succession of events soon. We cut off the last bit of this conversation because we started talking about that history, but decided to save it for later.

0:00 Preamble with Chris and Kevan
39:18 Conversation with Leiland and Guatemax starts.