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TL;DR - Steve Shives Still Doesn't Understand the Men's Rights Movement [22/Jul/15]
Steve, why you no let me look at objective facts this time? Sophistry is so very boring compared to empirical data. ; _ ;
Source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPAT8vp0RGU
Some Men's Rights Activists have very clear objective goals:
http://www.avoiceformen.com/policies/mission-statement/
[EDIT 23/07/15]
Another list of objective MRA goals presented here: http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/mens-rights-march-2013-internet-statement/
Once again these are not universally agreed upon by all MRA but there does still seem to be a lot of agreement on these issues.
[/EDIT]
Individual feminists might have goals but there is no universal 'win' condition:
http://www.quora.com/Feminism/What-is-the-ultimate-goal-of-the-feminist-movement
http://www.feminist.com/askamy/feminism/fem88.html
Feminists totally don't harass people:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iARHCxAMAO0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO_X4DkwA_Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ewU33EdNnM
https://www.youtube.com//watch?v=YEovq3UHfRU
http://socialjusticefail.tumblr.com/post/66459871847/repomannathe-erin-pizzey-tho-whenever-i-hear-a
False Rape Cases from the last few months:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2014/12/11/the-full-demise-of-rolling-stones-rape-story/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/u-va-dean-sues-rolling-stone-for-false-portrayal-in-retracted-rape-story/2015/05/12/2128a84a-f862-11e4-a13c-193b1241d51a_story.html
http://www.mindingthecampus.org/2015/06/did-mattress-girl-tell-the-truth-not-very-likely/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3112553/Columbia-rape-victim-carried-mattress-campus-creates-new-art-piece-showing-having-sex-turns-violent.html
http://www.vanityfair.com/style/2014/03/duke-lacrosse-rape-scandal-ryan-mcfadyen
http://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/dec/01/109-women-prosecuted-false-rape-allegations
Steve Shives couldn't have escaped poverty without e-begging for other people's money:
https://www.patreon.com/steveshives?ty=h
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