Premium Only Content

The Genius, Museum and Art vs Craft: Reading Larry Shiner’s The Invention of Art | Pt. 2
Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv take a deep-dive into Larry Shiner's book The Invention of Art (2001), commenting on the contents from the perspective of classical painting and culture.
👍✨ Support our show and get access to more than 200 exclusive posts:
https://patreon.com/caveofapelles/
Chapter markers:
00:00 Architects separated from masons
05:16 Craft vs. genius
09:41 “Creative imagination” vs imitation
20:11 Kant's superhuman genius
24:25 Artification of music and the idiosyncratic world of genius
31:20 “From patronage to market”
44:21 Art vs. money, copyright and the “aesthetic”
48:50 “Kant and Schiller sum up the aesthetic”
53:24 Kant's “fine art vs craft” & indifference vs. storytelling
58:00 Kant's spontaneous genius
1:00:42 Schiller
1:03:28 Museums as the great neutralizers
1:15:28 de Quincy's warnings against the museum
1:19:26 Do we need museums?
This episode featured Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed by Myndin Nerdrum and Auden Dillon.
The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts' Hope.
SHOUTOUT to our TOP SPONSORS!
Fergus Ryan
Matthias Proy
Børge Moe
Diego
Subscribe to our newsletter. It is the only way to make sure that you receive content from us on a regular basis:
https://bit.ly/2L8qCNn
Check out our other channels:
https://www.youtube.com/c/SchoolofApelles
https://www.youtube.com/c/CultureWarsNow
Podcast available on SoundCloud, iTunes, and Spotify:
https://soundcloud.com/caveofapelles
https://spoti.fi/2AVDkcT
https://apple.co/2QAcXD6
Website:
https://caveofapelles.com
Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/caveofapelles
TikTok:
https://www.tiktok.com/@caveofapelles
Instagram:
instagram.com/caveofapelles/
For inquiries — [email protected]
-
1:27:21
Cave of Apelles
1 year ago $0.06 earnedSeth Fite on Sincerity in Painting, Andrew Wyeth, and Human Suffering as the Superior Subject Matter
317 -
41:43
MattMorseTV
2 hours ago🔴It’s ACTUALLY HAPPENING…🔴
3.65K31 -
LIVE
Putther
25 minutes ago🔴LIL WILLY RETURNS TO GTA RP
-
LIVE
Reidboyy
6 hours agoCamo King Grinds 100% Completion for Battlefield 6 *SECRET* Mastery Camo (All Badges + Camos 100%)
47 -
LIVE
The Jimmy Dore Show
3 hours agoIsrael STILL KILLING Gazans Despite Ceasefire! No Kings March Was A Complete Fraud! w/Katie Pasitney
28.4K37 -
12:21:32
LFA TV
23 hours agoLIVE & BREAKING NEWS! | MONDAY 10/20/25
163K26 -
LIVE
LIVE WITH CHRIS'WORLD
5 hours agoLIVE WITH CHRIS’WORLD - Not a King BUT Still YOUR President!
26 -
8:28:51
Dr Disrespect
10 hours ago🔴LIVE - DR DISRESPECT - BATTLEFIELD 6 - CHASING 100 KILLS
88.7K10 -
56:01
BonginoReport
4 hours agoAI Trump SH*TS On Harry Sisson - Nightly Scroll w/ Hayley Caronia (Ep.159)
23.5K24 -
4:58:27
StoneMountain64
6 hours agoBattlefield 6 is ALREADY getting BETTER
21.2K2