MSNBC’s Joy Reid: Republican Governors ‘Have Sent’ Biden’s Border Crisis ‘All Over the Country Like the Old Segregationists’

Reid: “And the thing is Paola, you know, it this is a good point that Jennifer makes, is that one of the things that red state governors like the governors of Texas and Florida have done, is they’ve sent the problem if you want to call it the problem of undocumented people, they’ve shipped them all over the country, like the old, you know, segregationists in the civil rights, used to put black people on buses to say, ‘Hey, let’s send them to your city so that you will be upset.’ And then you’ve got these twin pressures, people who can’t afford rent, people are seeing economic, you know, challenges in terms of affording things, and then they see migrants and they say, ‘Well, they’re getting the money that should be coming to me.’ So this has become really effective to Biden’s response to it is to say, ‘I’ll be punitive.’ Does that seem to address it?”
RAMOS: “It doesn’t. And that’s — that’s another problem. And you’re right. I mean, I think that’s the interesting dynamic that’s happening, right. One thing is being a New Yorker and talking about the border being miles and miles away from the border, the other thing is, suddenly all of these states becoming border states, but I think here’s the thing. The bottom line is that any humanitarian aid worker at the border, any Catholic charity that’s there, anyone that is working with migrants every single day will tell you that this initiative does not equal border security for one very simple reason. As this is happening the cartels will simply profit more. I mean, all this does is drive migrants and asylum seekers to rely on the cartels to find other ways and other routes and more money to do what inevitably happens, which is finding different ways into the United States. I mean — and that is sort of that’s human nature. That’s the story of migration. Deterrence, walls, these punitive policies do not stop desperation. That’s — that’s just — I mean, we know that, that’s part of the story. And that’s what, unfortunately, we’re going to see, more violence, more danger.”