Deadly Force?

They can fucking have it. - I'll shoot that in the face.

(laughing) - What John? - Actually I would shoot him in the big toe. That way he can watch him dance around a little bit like that. - John, you're airy schooled. - At least get some energy out of it. - You're a good boy. - So shut up. - We deploy four months at a time. Just because we get to do it in nice air condition, comfy outfit, doesn't mean it's not to the point. It just means you're dumber. - I don't wanna overshadow anybody else. I understand that everyone has their own opinion, but as a deployed veteran, it's just shit. It doesn't fucking matter to me. I care not about stuff. Let them take it. - That's very mature and reasonable, Chuck, and I'm surprised it's coming from you. - So this is Larry from St. Louis. So I would say for me, as long as,

like there wasn't someone still in there or that, I'm kind of on the same line with Chuck, because for me, the thought of if I shot the person, what is it that cost me in legal fees? It's gonna far surpass the cost of that Jeep.

Chuck clears throat) And the legal definition of self-defense is, you don't use deadly force to do more stuff. You use deadly force to protect somebody else or yourself. - It depends on the state. And the state of Texas, you can use deadly force to protect your property. - Yeah, in Texas, you can. - Your home, your home property. - I mean, you can get your car property. - No, no, any property. - Castle law would cover you when your car too. - Yep, yep. - While it might be legal, the civil, they start doing the civil court suits against you, you're still gonna have to pay that lawyer.

- So when I got back from second appointment, I went and got a concealed carry, right? Like a lot of veterans do. And it's a get out of jail earlier card, but you're still going to jail and you're still gonna do all your stuff.

So what I learned early on, like not early on in my life, but early on in my civilian life was, you're still going to prison.

Is it worth it? No, I don't wanna get raped. I don't wanna fucking go to prison. I don't want anything, it's just stuff. - And it wasn't that pretty Chuck, don't worry about getting raped. (laughing)

- Is it 20 bucks involved?

- Yeah, like you don't,

I think about my wife and my children and everything, like it's just a Jeep. They're gonna have to go through how many fucking nights without their husband, without their daddy, without all that stuff for a fucking plastic or metal Jeep. Like, no, I'd much rather go home to my family and then we'll deal with the insurance later to get that, recuperate the money, and then we just buy another one. Like, no, I'm a family guy, like I'm not into fucking killing people anymore. Like we did that a lot back in the fucking deployment days. - Chuck, that's a common sense answer. Common sense answers are just not entertaining. So why don't you just be quiet for a bit and what we're talking about. - I think Larry kind of hit it on the nail on the head. It depends on what's in the damn thing, right? If my dog's in there, I'm gonna shoot you.

My family, you know, wife, kid, whatever's in there, it all depends on kind of what's in there. I agree with Chuck, if it's just a freaking Jeep, it's just a Jeep, I don't care. But I don't know what you're assuming. You're assuming like a car-jacking situation, or are you assuming like you're sitting in there drinking Coors Light, cause you don't know how real beer tastes. And you look out the parking lot and somebody's driving off with your Jeep. I mean, if it's a car-jacking situation and someone's like, "Hey, I'm gonna steal your Jeep unless you shoot them or whatever."

So maybe that's kind of like my life.

- Like John, I think it'd be fun to use if someone would come up and they're like, "Hey, you're in the driver's seat. I'm gonna take your rig." Like, oh, that's funsies now. Like we're so gonna fucking kill everything about you. Like, yes, absolutely. But if you're out of it and you're watching them fucking steal your rig, you just sit back and go, "Well, I'm gonna get paid from insurance. It doesn't matter." Like if it's a physical threat to the myself, oh, I'm gonna win. I don't give a fuck what I have to do. I'm going to win.

- So let me put this twist on it. Now, California, and you guys call me out if this isn't the same thing. California is now allowing people to steal the shoplift up to what, $972 worth of merchandise? And they don't, you don't stop them?

You don't sell a Jeep store, that'd be cool. That'd be a lot of trips. But they're allowing this to happen. And what does that tell the people that are shoplifting that it's perfectly fine to do this?