Jordan Peterson: "The cultural tide has shifted."

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During the inauguration ball on January 20, 2025, Jan Jekielek did a brief interview with Jordan Peterson to talk about his move to the US, Canada as 51st state, TikTok and China.

Jordan Peterson: “The cultural tide has shifted, and hopefully the people who benefited in consequence of that will have the wisdom to be measured in their political maneuvers and focused on the issues at hand, and not on petty revenge and foolish politics.”

About Canada as 51st state: “I suppose one of the underlying realities that is motivating Trump is the fact that Canada and the US should be bound together very tightly, economically, especially with regards to energy and energy security, and that could be negotiated in a way that would be eminently beneficial to both countries.”

“Trump is preparing to renegotiate a whole series of international agreements, and he's doing what he usually does, which is to push for advantage hard and see what happens, and to establish what would you say an anchor that is beyond even what he might hope to achieve, so that he can achieve half of that. He's very good at that. So, and I think Trump also floats these propositions as a trial balloon. You know, he's obviously the guy who's willing to see what'll happen, and so he likes to stir the pot, and he's doing that very effectively at the moment in relationship to Canada and Greenland and Panama and Mexico.”

CHAPTER TITLES
0:00:00 - Peterson's Move to the US
0:01:20 - Trump's Statements About Canada
0:03:17 - Free Speech and TikTok
0:04:47 - Predictions for the Next 100 Days
0:05:35 - Peterson's Shift in Posting

Peterson about TikTok: “I'm no fan of TikTok. I know that TikTok has pathologized women between 18 and 34 in the US. It's probably the prime agent on the media front in their pathologization, their terrible manipulation of the information streams that they've been fed. It's appalling. We're fools when it comes to Communist China. Is there a free speech concern there? I know the Libertarians make that case, libertarian conservatives, and it's not like we want the government attending to which apps we use on our phones, but there's a legitimate security threat from the Chinese government. There's genuine infiltration with regard to TikTok. So I don't know enough about the specific details of the situation to come up with anything brilliant to say about appropriate policy moving forward. I can't say, however, that the idea that the Chinese Communists are our friends is a very naive idea.”

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