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Josh Mandell’s $84K Prophecy: Genius, Luck, or Something Else? We Debate
This episode is a recording of an X Space I had the pleasure of hosting on March 24th. It features a compelling debate between Kevin Brent Cook and Grain of Salt on Josh Mandell’s precise and publicly stated prediction that Bitcoin would hit $84,000 on Pi Day, March 14th.
Kevin argues that many are being fooled by randomness. Grain believes Josh is simply an elite trader — and maybe even tapped into something unconventional. Memories, multiverses, time loops? Who knows.
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––– Chapters –––
00:00 - Intro
02:30 - Kevin, Grain of Salt and Joe Carlasare's Backstories
07:30 - Discovering Probability & Mental Models in Trading
12:30 - Why Kevin Created Risk Software for the Brain
17:30 - Grain’s Bitcoin Origin Story & Full Send in 2017
22:30 - The Market Isn’t Efficient: Arbitraging Belief and Behavior
27:30 - Was Josh’s Prediction a Fluke or a Skill?
32:30 - The Power of Positioning and Mindset in Trading
37:30 - Memory, Multiverses & Numerology in Market Prediction
42:30 - The CME Gap, Sovereign FOMO & Options Mechanics
47:30 - Philosophical Clash: Rationality vs Comfort with the Unknown
52:30 - Closing Thoughts
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