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Saifedean: Bitcoin Poised for Cycle Top? Corporate Treasuries, Wealth Concentration & Gold Standard
Natalie Brunell is joined by Saifedean Ammous, economist and author of The Bitcoin Standard, for a deep-dive conversation on sound money, Bitcoin’s future, and his upcoming book, The Gold Standard. Ammous pulls no punches, challenging modern monetary policy and weighing in on Bitcoin’s divisibility, wealth concentration, and corporate treasuries.
Topics discussed include:
- An inside look at The Gold Standard and whether Saifedean believes a gold-backed framework may reemerge
- Wealth concentration under fiat vs Bitcoin
- The rise of corporate Bitcoin treasuries and the broader institutionalization of Bitcoin
- Why we don't need inflationary money
- Is Bitcoin infinitely divisible?
- Why Saifedean thinks we’re approaching a Bitcoin cycle top right now
- Saif's reaction to selling over 1 million copies of The Bitcoin Standard and its impact on the ecosystem
Guest Bio: @saifedean is an economist and professor of economics at the Lebanese American University. He is the author of The Bitcoin Standard, which has become a seminal work on Bitcoin’s role in monetary history, and now The Gold Standard, exploring the case for a return to gold-backed money. Follow Saif on X at https://x.com/saifedean.
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*IN THIS COIN STORIES EPISODE*
00:00 Live from Bitcoin 2025
00:49 Saifedean Ammous new book "The Gold Standard"
3:29 Monetary system changing
5:30 Bitwise
5:59 Bitdeer Technologies Group
6:22 Revaluing gold
7:08 Bitcoin price
9:21 Institutionalization of Bitcoin
10:29 Next Bitcoin bear market
11:18 Top of Bitcoin cycle
12:07 Will Bitcoin price reach $200k in 2025?
12:49 Is another big print coming?
13:33 The Bitcoin Standard sells 1 million copies
14:17 Bitcoin for teens
15:07 Casa Business
15:37 Bitkey
15:57 The Bitcoin Way
16:20 Coinkite
16:34 Speed.app
16:50 Evolution of Bitcoin culture
18:07 Will Bitcoin help reduce wealth concentration?
21:16 Is inflationary money supply necessary?
28:00 Bitcoin helping dreams come true
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Saifedean's website https://saifedean.com/
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Producer: Aron Bender https://www.linkedin.com/in/aron-bender/
Editor: Silas Foley
DISCLAIMER Coin Stories is for entertainment purposes only and does not give financial advice. #bitcoin #crypto #bitcoinpodcast
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