Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI | SRS #208

Jun 12, 2025 Shawn Ryan Show
Alex Wang is the CEO and co-founder of Scale AI, a leading data platform accelerating the development of artificial intelligence applications. Founded in 2016, Scale AI provides high-quality training data for AI models, serving clients like OpenAI, Microsoft, and the U.S. Department of Defense. A former software engineering prodigy, Wang dropped out of MIT to build Scale AI, which is now valued at over $13 billion. Recognized on Forbes’ 30 Under 30 and TIME’s 100 Most Influential People in AI, Wang is a prominent voice in shaping the future of AI innovation and deployment. He advocates for responsible AI development and policies to ensure ethical and secure AI advancements.

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00:00 Intro & Thoughts on Tech
00:39 Neuralink & Brain Interfaces
02:48 AI, Evolution & Risks
10:08 Applications & Implications of AI
19:24 AI’s Role in Society & Governance
28:47 Alex Wang’s Journey
47:58 The Dark Forest Hypothesis & Extraterrestrial Life
54:23 Childhood, Los Alamos & Perfectionism
01:06:52 MIT, AI Work & Founding Scale AI
01:20:22 Scale AI’s Growth & Defense Use
01:35:21 AI in Military Strategy & Wargaming
01:42:43 AI Warfare & Intelligence
02:09:52 Government, National Security & AI
02:27:05 Data Centers & Nuclear Power
02:31:02 China’s AI Plan & Espionage
02:44:09 Security Threats & Taiwan Chip Crisis
03:00:18 Future of AI & Global Cooperation
03:21:47 Conclusion & Final Thoughts