TMB62 - Betsy Kudlinski - Renaturing the Self: A Somatic Path from Pain to Presence

This episode felt like a homecoming.

Betsy Kudlinski has spent a life immersed in nature—working with animals, tending land, and learning how nervous systems heal when given the chance to remember. But when chronic pain and trauma created a deep disconnect from the body, a new path emerged—one that Betsy now calls “renaturing.”
We talk through what it means to live in freeze mode, why presence can feel dangerous after trauma, and how somatic experiencing, evolutionary biology, and Taoist wisdom all point toward the same truth: the body already knows the way home, if we can learn to listen.

Together, we explore healing not just as recovery, but as reconnection—with ourselves, with others, and with the wild world that’s been waiting all along.