Why Bitcoin Holders are Buying Passports (and you should too) w/ Katie Ananina

*"You can't put all your eggs in one basket. You can't have one citizenship as a Bitcoiner. You must have a hedge in place."*

In this episode of THE Bitcoin Podcast, Walker America sits down with Katie Ananina, founder of Plan B Passport and now with CitizenX, to explore how Bitcoiners can secure their sovereignty by stacking second passports, leveraging flag theory, and opting out of failing nation-states.

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EXODUS MAP: https://citizenx.com/exodus

Katie shares her incredible journey from pro athlete in post-Soviet Russia to U.S. immigrant, entrepreneur, and Bitcoin pioneer. She breaks down the sovereign individual thesis, the rise of Bitcoin citizenship programs like El Salvador’s, and why jurisdictions like Serbia, Argentina, and the Caribbean are leading the charge.

They dive into:
• Why Bitcoiners need second citizenships before it’s too late
• How nation-states are becoming subscription services
• How governments are losing their monopoly on money and violence
• Capital flight from socialist regimes like the UK and Canada
• The future of microstates, borderless capital, and Bitcoin-based governance
• How to acquire citizenship through investment, descent, or relocation

Plus: prepping vs doomering, raising free kids in Austin, and what would cause Katie to finally leave America.

📍If you care about sovereignty, Bitcoin, global mobility, or escaping the fiat clown world—this is a must-watch.
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Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Bitcoin Podcast and Current Market Trends
03:38 Katie's Immigrant Journey and Entrepreneurial Spirit
07:54 Challenges of American Immigration and Policy Changes
11:44 Understanding Plan B Passport and Flag Theory
15:49 The Importance of Citizenship and Geopolitical Hedging
20:52 Exploring Citizenship by Investment Options
24:54 Citizenship by Descent: A Path to Strong Passports
29:08 The Future of Nation-States and Economic Freedom
32:44 Navigating the Bureaucratic Nightmare of Ancestry Citizenship
41:28 Choosing Austin: A Strategic Decision
45:18 Fears and Concerns: Navigating Uncertainty
49:27 Preparing for the Future: Being a Prepper, Not a Doomer
51:24 Citizenship and Capital: The Game Theory of Nations
54:24 Capital Flight: The Wealth Exodus from the UK
59:26 Economic Freedom vs. Socialism: A Historical Perspective
01:06:15 The Future of Nation States: Subscription-Based Governance
01:10:46 Final Thoughts: Tools for the Sovereign Individual