Upgrading Finance with Bitcoin - Pierre and Morgen Rochard | Ep. 87

Our guests today are Pierre and Morgen Rochard, co-hosts of the “Bitcoin for Advisors” podcast and leading advocates for integrating Bitcoin into long-term financial planning. In this episode, Pierre shares how Austrian economics and open-source philosophy led him to Bitcoin in 2012, and how his new venture, “The Bitcoin Bond Company”, aims to unlock institutional credit markets using sound money. Morgen reflects on her background in traditional finance and explains how she helps individuals match long-term goals with long-term assets like Bitcoin. We discuss the cultural clash between fiat excess and Bitcoin values, the growing trend of corporate treasury adoption, and the risks of financialization without education. Pierre and Morgen break down the freedoms enabled by Bitcoin, and caution against over-leveraging and chasing returns. Above all, this is a conversation about financial sovereignty, purposeful planning, and bridging old systems with a better monetary future.

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-- CHAPTERS –

00:00 Coming Up…
01:10 Introducing Pierre & Morgen Rochard
02:30 Reflections on Vegas & The Bitcoin Conference
05:30 Wall Street, Nation States & Individual Adoption
06:48 From a Doomer Mindset to A Constructive Transition
10:20 Discovering Bitcoin: Their Personal Journeys & Austrian Economics
14:30 What Makes Bitcoin Special?
17:35 How Bitcoin enables rational decision-making
19:20 Bitcoin Bond Company Explained: Bridging Traditional Finance
27:00 Spiritual Foundations for Honest Money
28:45 Biggest Risks and Rewards for Bitcoin
33:45 Financial Education & Financial Planning
36:35 Ripple/XRP Lobbying & Misinformation Campaigns
41:30 Ripple Funding $5m for Anti-Climate Anti-Bitcoin Campaign
44:10 Bitcoin Treasury Companies: The Trend
49:40 How to Build a Bitcoin-Aware Portfolio
54:00 Most Memorable Research at Riot
59:50 Finding Hope in God, Family & Community