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Franchise Faith: The Hidden Agenda Behind Global Church Plants | Jed Hartley | Episode 381
John and Jed discuss how cult dynamics infiltrate not only fringe religious groups like IHOP, YWAM, and Bethel, but also influence mainstream churches through branding, fragmentation, and spiritual elitism. Drawing from personal experiences and historical case studies, they highlight how movements often prioritize expansion and spectacle over accountability and genuine service. From church planting strategies to failed missions rooted in emotional manipulation, they show how much of the spiritual infrastructure today mirrors the corporate franchise model.
They trace the development of these movements from early Pentecostal figures such as Frank Sanford and Charles Parham to modern-day spiritual tourism and missions that often benefit the senders more than the communities being served. The conversation raises serious concerns about the lack of oversight, the trauma caused by spiritually abusive methods, and the ease with which narcissistic leaders can build personal empires under the guise of ministry. In the end, they preview a heartbreaking example of a cult offshoot where these dangers became fatal.
00:00 Introduction
03:19 Church branding, cult isolation, and the rise of franchise faith
06:06 Global expansion of IHOP and YWAM as decentralized spiritual networks
10:48 Latter Rain theology and the empowerment of local cult leaders
15:00 From Western towns to modern cult-towns: control, fragmentation, and elitism
18:56 How mainstream churches mirror cult behavior through competitive branding
23:43 Fast-food faith: emotional hype, churn-and-burn discipleship, and false miracles
27:18 Missions as radicalization, not evangelism
34:59 When cult outreach serves the cult more than the lost
43:03 Historical parallels: Frank Sanford, Charles Parham, and failed Pentecostal missions
53:13 Writing in tongues and the myth of early Pentecostal power
58:01 Why cult training schools produce more need than aid
1:02:06 Sanitized histories and institutionalized trauma
1:05:09 How easy it is to plant your own YWAM or IHOP group
1:08:26 Teaser: a real-life tragedy from an IHOP-affiliated cult group
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