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Divorce Without Destruction: How to Separate as a Team & Build a Better Future EP81
In this deep, unfiltered episode of the Rumbling Facts Podcast, DjRetsam (aka Sam) sits down with Melissa Murphy Pavone, a certified financial planner and divorce financial analyst who is flipping the script on how we view money, love, and long-term stability. Melissa is not just a numbers expert—she’s a mindfulness-based financial coach on a mission to teach couples and individuals how to heal financial trauma, prevent financial infidelity, and create lives rooted in clarity, trust, and emotional wellness.
With a strong background in finance from major institutions like UBS and Oppenheimer, Melissa noticed something most advisors ignore—money problems weren’t just about budgets; they were emotional, psychological, and deeply personal. These silent money issues were destroying marriages, triggering divorces, and keeping people stuck in cycles of guilt and confusion. That realization sparked her purpose-driven mission: to create a holistic financial practice where money conversations aren’t taboo—they’re transformational.
Together, Sam and Melissa uncover the uncomfortable truths that most experts shy away from:
💥 What financial infidelity really looks like—and why couples don’t see it coming
💥 How childhood money trauma silently controls adult financial behavior
💥 Why money is the #1 cause of divorce—and what couples can do to prevent it
💥 What it means to plan mindfully, especially during major life transitions like divorce or retirement
💥 How to build financial trust between partners—even if one is starting from a place of secrecy or fear
This conversation isn’t just for married folks. If you’ve ever:
• Felt stuck financially and didn’t know why
• Found yourself repeating destructive patterns with money
• Argued with your partner over spending, saving, or power
• Wanted to shift your financial mindset, but didn’t know where to begin—
Then this episode is absolutely for you.
Melissa also breaks down why collaborative divorce is a game-changer for couples going through separation, how empathy and transparency create stronger financial strategies, and how her own personal story—rooted in her mother’s struggles—inspired her entire philosophy.
You’ll leave this episode with:
✅ A deeper understanding of the emotional roots of your financial behavior
✅ Tools to start real conversations about money with your partner
✅ A fresh perspective on how financial planning can support your mental health, not just your wallet
✅ Empowering ideas to break generational money trauma and replace it with conscious financial legacy-building
🔥 Notable Moments:
“Money doesn’t ruin marriages—unspoken stories and shame around it do.”
“You don’t need more money to feel secure—you need more clarity, connection, and confidence.”
“The truth is, most financial conflict has nothing to do with money and everything to do with fear and past wounds.”
📌 Topics Covered:
#FinancialInfidelity #MoneyAndMarriage #MindfulFinance #CollaborativeDivorce #FinancialEmpowerment #UncomfortableTruths #HealingMoneyTrauma #RumblingFactsPodcast #DjRetsam
🎯 Who Is This For?
• Couples navigating tough money talks
• Divorcees rebuilding from the ground up
• Entrepreneurs managing personal + business finances
• Anyone ready to finally understand their emotional relationship with money
• Truth-seekers tired of surface-level advice
🧠 Rumbling Facts is where uncomfortable truths collide with real growth.
👑 Critical thinking is king.
🎤 This is the conversation you didn’t know you needed.
Don’t forget to subscribe, like, share, and leave a review if this episode sparked something in you. 🔥
Melissa Pavone LINKS
Website
https://mindfulfinancialpartners.com/
Website #2
https://mindfuldivorcepartners.com/
Website #3
https://www.moneymattersinmarriagellc.com/
LinkedIn URL
https://www.linkedin.com/in/melissamurphypavone
Your Host = Sam Gladu @DjRetsam @Retsam64
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