Preston Sprinkle and Sean McDowell Debate LGBT Identity | My Commentary

Originally Published on YouTube 1/22/25.
Apologist Sean McDowell and theologian Preston Sprinkle just had a conversation discussing their disagreements on LGBTQ issues. Leading up to the full video, Sean released a clip of the part about "gay identity." Here's my commentary, putting the debate in contexts of the differing approaches in the church toward LGBTQ, defining identity, having an adequate anthropology, and the therapeutic approach I take with people struggling with sexuality.

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References (Note: using clips from other channels is for commentary and is protected under Fair Use):
The clip from Sean McDowell's channel of him and Preston discussing gay identity: https://youtu.be/PL0qwjxGoLE?si=GDCY7ivGGKObYh0E
The full debate/discussion: https://youtu.be/mGuxjNtHW5A?si=d9LSHBQTFOmHq3ni

For more on the topics in this video:
The Five Streams of Approaches to LGBTQ in the Church (Linda Seiler interview clip): https://youtu.be/PoljxqjT1qI
Sexuality Counseling in the 5 Streams: https://youtu.be/noCsp2e2O8w
Christian Critics of Ex-Gay Ministry: Part 1 - Renounce (Side Y): https://youtu.be/hdac4O06Q4c
Christian Critics of Ex-Gay Ministry: Part 2 - Resist (Side B): https://youtu.be/QKdc6gugPuM
Correcting Christopher Yuan's and Rosaria Butterfield's Criticism of Ex-Gay Ministry (Note: Rosaria has since repented of her unfair criticism.) https://youtu.be/bN9i5lcyjSs
Theology of the Body Supports Transformational Ex-Gay Ministry: https://youtu.be/c6Qj_w6d_E8
Dismantling the Sexual Orientation Paradigm: https://youtu.be/B3-Pc5ulwXE
Sexual Arousal Templates: https://youtu.be/P_aH-VDwTVo
Transformational Change of Sexuality: https://youtu.be/yDL7zOIMYvQ
Reasonable Outcomes for Sexuality Counseling: https://youtu.be/-db2gUzPHws
Thoughts or Feelings: The Difference and Importance: https://youtu.be/0IzDLkU8vFI
The Concupiscence Controversy | Are You Sinning Just by Feeling Arousal? https://youtu.be/Sgr3eVjlr7g
My commentary on Gregory Coles' Debate with James White on Gay Christian Identity: https://youtu.be/Sgr3eVjlr7g
My response to Gregory Coles' Criticism of Reintegrative Therapy: https://youtu.be/iGkS9Eaf2Ok
True Compassion to LGBT: https://youtu.be/AxEBCBcPQNo
Logan Paul Asks Cliffe Knechtle about Homosexuality: My Commentary: https://youtu.be/aaHi5bKM8kU

Timestamps:
00:06 Background of Sean's conversation with Preston.
07:33 Overview of the differing views in the church on LGBT.
15:44 Invoking Freud.
19:28 Clarifying what "identity" is.
25:17 Conflation of objective identity and subjective sense of identity.
36:34 Acceptance of the experience of same-sex arousal.
41:09 Is SSA itself a sin?
42:20 Ontological or phenomenological meaning of "gay" identity.
46:20 Preston's bad advice.
49:30 A "gay" self-label isn't necessarily a positive embrace.
51:36 Sean pushing back on Preston's definition of "gay."
53:13 Preston using Gregory Coles as an example of "gay Christian."
57:19 Using "gay Christian" missiologically?
01:04:25 Closing thoughts.

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