194.20250803 The 9/11 WarRoom

Show notes:

9/11 veteran claims FDNY is cheating him out of benefits, pension — but department says he owes it $600K
https://nypost.com/2025/08/01/us-news/9-11-veteran-claims-fdny-is-cheating-him-out-of-benefits-pension/

TikTok deletes beauty boss’s video blaming Israel for 9/11, World Wars and 7 October
https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/tiktok-deletes-beauty-bosss-video-blaming-israel-for-9-11-world-wars-and-7-october/
https://x.com/DahliaKurtz/status/1952071924378378522

Peter Bergen continues to update the official narrative of the September 11 attacks at Britannica.com
https://www.britannica.com/event/September-11-attacks

AE911Truth Expands its Mission
https://www.ae911truth.org/news/1082-ae911truth-expands-its-mission
https://www.ae911truth.org/mission

Jim Fetzer with Boston 9/11 Truth 29 July 2025
https://rumble.com/v6wvzt2-jim-fetzer-with-boston-911-truth-29-july-2025.html

Kevin Barrett on Boston 9/11 Truth 8/3/2025
https://rumble.com/v6x3g02-kevin-barrett-on-boston-911-truth-832025.html

9/11 and Other Deep State Crimes Teleconference
David Gardáš - a 9/11 truther and specialist in geopolitics, power elites, and central bank digital currencies - on the activities of the Rothschilds in China
https://911teleconference.substack.com/

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=== CHAT LOG ===

17:06:59 From Karl Golovin to Everyone:
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17:16:40 From Karl Golovin to Everyone:
Link in this X post to recording of Benjamin Freedman talk about origins of WW-1 and WW-2, prospect of US being imminently drawn into "Israel" vs. Arab war/ WW-3: https://x.com/KarlGolovin/status/1656471895850512384?t=MgC5Mq1KuPF0tLpRH6g1Uw&s=19

17:17:37 From Steven Andrews to Everyone:
My co-workers spent months going to Cantor funerals :(

17:17:44 From chuck fall to Everyone:
Department of Commerce employees are explicitly denied federal whistle blower protections.

17:20:43 From Steven Andrews to Everyone:
Nothing can hit the Pentagon unless it is allowed to.

17:22:16 From Steven Andrews to Everyone:
What exactly does the government says? It has changed multiple times over the last 24 years.

17:23:03 From Jon Olsen to Everyone:
Amen Craig

17:25:34 From Steven Andrews to Everyone:
I listened in to the Barrett call, he is always informative about 9/11.

17:32:46 From Jon Olsen to Everyone:
Try Tucker for bonafide journalist

17:37:59 From chuck fall to Everyone:
“we just don’t know…” is the psy-op; mearsheimer is controlled opposition

17:39:42 From Steven Andrews to Everyone:
Osama Bin Lade was behind the USS Cole bombing and the Saudi apartment building bombings, I don't think that is controversial - Bin Laden wrote that manifesto before 9/11. As far as I know no official anything claims OBL was "behind" 911, or even knew about 9/11.

17:40:37 From Steven Andrews to Everyone:
Replying to "“we just don’t know…” is the psy-op; mearsheimer i...":
Serious question, controlled by who? How is he controlled? Is he told what to say, and if so, by whom? It is an important question I think.

17:40:44 From Jon Olsen to Everyone:
"Small groups of people" Hmm, Cheney, Wolfowitz, et.al per the "Other 19"

17:41:18 From Jon Olsen to Everyone:
Good point Seven.

17:41:36 From Steven Andrews to Everyone:
The Judeo-Muslims were in control over NORAD on 9/11 /eyeroll

17:41:37 From chuck fall to Everyone:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/aug/02/self-termination-history-and-future-of-societal-collapse?CMP=oth_b-aplnews_d-1

17:43:04 From Steven Andrews to Everyone:
I am 100% convinced the CIA knew about everything, and whatever Mossad involvement there was (obviously) it isn't like the CIA didn't know - and there is no way the Pentagon didn't know. Rumsfled obviously knew and was in charge when they "stood down" in one way or another.

17:43:54 From chuck fall to Everyone:
Watch Beyond Bravo 7 for simple understanding of power structure (banking cartels); and the article from the Guardian captures an urgent understanding of humankind’s situation as a collapsing empire. Think if Israel as a gangster state that is in the employ of the master Anglo-American-European cartel.

17:44:48 From chuck fall to Everyone:
Israel did not control the World Trade Center crime scene. Bob Mueller did and passed oversight to FEMA; on orders from someone on high

17:45:58 From Steven Andrews to Everyone:
In the context of history, Greater Israel is just another imperialist movement, like every other imperialist movement since Alexander the Great.

17:46:32 From Steven Andrews to Everyone:
It's the Israeli version of America's Manifest Destiny. It's hardly different than Russian imperialism.

17:47:55 From Steven Andrews to Everyone:
Wny the "banker cartels" - not the military, not the police, not the intelligence agencies. Powerful people network with each other, whatevere form it takes it is powerful people using their power to get more power. This is humanity, you can't fix it by "politics."

17:49:21 From Karl Golovin to Everyone:
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17:51:28 From Steven Andrews to Everyone:
Question for Craig McKee and his comments about the Pentagon, I read an author who suggested focusing on the Pentagon - not "what" hit it, but why anything hit it - and how it is obvious top levels of the US military/Pentagon clearly were negligent, if not complicit.

17:53:27 From Karl Golovin to Everyone:
Link in this X post to recording of Benjamin Freedman speaking in 1961 at DC's Willard Hotel on origins of WW-1, WW-2, prospect even at that time of WW-3 being sparked by "Israel" - Arab conflict: https://x.com/KarlGolovin/status/1656471895850512384?t=OcopZ_38wTNt2aUHT83v1w&s=19

17:54:22 From Steven Andrews to Everyone:
Who decides who is "genuine" and who is not?

17:54:28 From Steven Andrews to Everyone:
Who is "we?"

17:55:00 From Craig McKee to Everyone:
Replying to "Question for Craig McKee and his comments about th...":
I never talk about "what" hit the Pentagon, because that supports the notion that some kind of flying craft crashed into the building. I don't think this happened. I think a large plane flew towards the building while explosives were detonated.

As for military complicity, I would say that we can show that a plane crash was faked and evidence planted, which clearly implicates the Pentagon. I believe we can go well beyond negligence.

17:56:34 From Jon Olsen to Everyone:
Yes, the implication of prior knowledge is clear.

17:57:05 From Steven Andrews to Everyone:
ok thanks Craig you answered my question. Still, it may be a good strategy to appeal to the military - obviously if you theory is correct then top levels of the Pentagon were complicit.

17:57:27 From Jon Olsen to Everyone:
Yea Carol!

17:57:36 From chuck fall to Everyone:
An essay that catalogued all the cases and examples of people having prior knowledge of 9/11 would be interesting; from knowledge of explosions, to collapse of the buildings, including Silverstein’s insurance gamble; coincidence of NORAD being down, or under a test; etc.

17:58:41 From Steven Andrews to Everyone:
Replying to "An essay that catalogued all the cases and example...":
That is what I am trying to do.

17:59:08 From Karl Golovin to Everyone:
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18:04:46 From Craig McKee to Everyone:
Replying to "ok thanks Craig you answered my question. Still, i...":
How would you suggest doing this?

18:05:47 From chuck fall to Everyone:
The failure to investigate and the cover up of the crime; this is the obvious crime

18:09:24 From magnus langlete to Everyone:
Bush https://youtu.be/N4rkfgHTK-M?si=1X3aoDgvnLHrC4aX

18:09:56 From magnus langlete to Everyone:
Bullseyes https://youtu.be/no4wJ0d8sGg?si=N_4_J_UdU3VYx6O5

18:10:35 From chuck fall to Everyone:
Is the issue that Israel killed Kennedy, or that there was a powerful cabal that drove the event? To singularly identify Israel / Zionists as the master power, is a diversionary play to distract from the real problem: generic plutocracy; Israel is a gangster state as is the USA and other post-colonial powers; China too. The issue is to call out the dominator class and the state crimes and other injustice they cause.

18:12:08 From chuck fall to Everyone:
I agree with the author’s perspective that the writer discusses in a book review: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/aug/02/self-termination-history-and-future-of-societal-collapse?CMP=oth_b-aplnews_d-1

18:12:37 From chuck fall to Everyone:
The US Department of Defense advanced the Covid program into society.

18:15:46 From Jon Olsen to Everyone:
Focusing on the mid level military and their betrayal by the top officer class is one way WE can initiate divide and conquer. It sure was useful during the Vietnam era in which I had substantial experience with anti-war military personnel.

18:15:54 From chuck fall to Everyone:
Dan Hanley argues that the airplanes could not have been piloted into the Pentagon, or the Towers , by human pilot control. He is categorical in his position, so on the issue, the airplanes were remote controlled piloted into the buildings.

18:17:14 From Steven Andrews to Everyone:
Yet if the evidence we were given by the Pentagon isn't reliable, it is not reliable.

18:20:00 From Jon Olsen to Everyone:
Useful talk but work to do. Aloha to all.

18:21:45 From Steven Andrews to Everyone:
No one knew until CNN reported a week later CIA had their largest facility outside Virginia in WTC7. That is where they debriefed their assets working at the UN, supposedly.

18:22:07 From Steven Andrews to Everyone:
Don't forget Worldcom!

18:24:45 From Steven Andrews to Everyone:
CIA sent teams to confiscate any surviving hard drives or files at the WTC7 - this was reported within a few days.

18:25:21 From Brian Good to Everyone:
The only way I could even consider the controlled demolition hypothesis was to investigate the Dr. Hugo Bachman's "toxic tenant " hypothesis that parties unknown rented offices in the towers and sneaked out at night to plant the bombs.

18:25:34 From Steven Andrews to Everyone:
Not being contentious, but who is "we?"

18:25:44 From Steven Andrews to Everyone:
"We" have to do this or other? Who is "we?"

18:28:21 From Carol Brouillet to Gene & Sandra | 911WarRoom.com (direct message):
Thank-you for organizing these conversations, but I really appreciate the action page that you posted with all the

18:28:32 From Steven Andrews to Everyone:
I was told by an eyewitness at the Pentagon in December of 2001 who said FBI confiscated his camera a half hour later.

18:29:43 From Carol Brouillet to Gene & Sandra | 911WarRoom.com (direct message):
resources for doing outreach to fire fighters.

18:33:14 From Carol Brouillet to Everyone:
We will be holding our 21st Annual 9/11 Truth Film Festival on September 11, 2025 at The Grand Lake Theatre, Oakland California. Details are posted at sf911truth.org. Our speakers are Captain (retired) Raul Sngulo, Author Bruce de Torres

18:37:58 From Deborah Lee to Everyone:
hello, long show tonight. My luck!

18:43:48 From Steven Andrews to Everyone:
Does anyone remember the stories about the "security breach" at Bush's Florida hotel the night before?

18:44:23 From Brian Good to Everyone:
I much appreciate Gene and Sandra's skepticism about claims of "proof". Dr. Griffin was an expert epistemologist, as was Dr. Fetzer. That's what brought them to 9/11 Truth.

18:44:57 From Steven Andrews to Everyone:
They reported they had anti-aircraft batteries on the roof, as their did earlier at a European international conference, precisely because they were worried about "terrorism" using "aircraft" - this was all reported in the mainstream media at the time.

18:47:28 From Roy McCoy to Everyone:
The Onion sucks.

18:48:05 From Steven Andrews to Everyone:
The Onion used to be funny for like 5 years. It is obviously making fun of truthers - this sort of thing used to be compelling in 2005 - Jon Stewart, etc., - but in 2025, no one under 35 buys the narrative anymore.

18:48:29 From Brian Good to Everyone:
Steven, the story goes that at the hotel at Longboat there were ground-to-air missiles placed on the roof, but a couple of Muslim-looking men drove up in a white van, claiming they were journalists who were scheduled to interview the president.

18:50:03 From Steven Andrews to Everyone:
Replying to "Steven, the story goes that at the hotel at Longbo...":
Yes, that is why I remember reading.

18:50:57 From chuck fall to Everyone:
to the extent Israel is complicit in state crimes, they are doing the bidding of a larger power plutocratic elite, the banking billionaire class

18:53:02 From Steven Andrews to Everyone:
lol - Bush was no intellectual, but he wasn't dumb. Before he "choked on a pretzel" (he had a stroke) he was a decent public speaker. Long time alcoholic like Bush are suspectible to that type of stroke with ruins your speaking ability, but not your reading, writing, or thinking.

18:57:10 From chuck fall to Everyone:
Have a great week everyone

18:58:42 From Carol Brouillet to Everyone:
anyone need flyers. I hAVE A TON!

19:14:36 From Roy McCoy to Everyone:
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