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Rebecca Roberts: Welcome to the North Carolina Journal Assembly meeting on August 20th, 2025.

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Rebecca Roberts: I would like to take a moment to begin And that is, in silence, for our Creator.

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Rebecca Roberts: All right, let's do the Bivens decision, and then… start our meeting.

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Rebecca Roberts: This meeting is private, bearing false witness, misrepresentation, and posting inflammatory rhetoric in public forums is forbidden and shall be addressed in an appropriate manner.

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Rebecca Roberts: To eliminate all conflict and false allegations, is there anyone in attendance at today's meeting that is a member or agent of any law enforcement agency or public agency of the federal, state, county, city, or township agencies present?

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Rebecca Roberts: Is there any response to the Bivens decision?

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Rebecca Roberts: Is there a response to the Bivens decision, asking the second time?

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Rebecca Roberts: And is there a response to the Bivens decision a third time?

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Rebecca Roberts: Anyone who is here under false pretenses, anyone who is working for any foreign government, including the territorial United States or municipal United States, anyone who is being paid or coerced to be here must fully disclose their presence and purpose now or leave the premises. If they subsequently show up as federal witnesses, they are discredited for failure

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Rebecca Roberts: to disclose.

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Rebecca Roberts: Very good.

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Rebecca Roberts: So everyone here is a state national and fully papered up. Thanks for being here at our first Dural Assembly meeting.

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Rebecca Roberts: And what I'd love to do today is have you participate somewhat after a short presentation, and our time is precious, and I'd like to keep our meetings under an hour, hopefully a lot less, but sometimes we will have educational

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Rebecca Roberts: Pieces, which many of our members, including our coordinators, will … Bring. Present. So… Let's begin with…

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Rebecca Roberts: The Common Law Community Training Manual, because…

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Rebecca Roberts: That's what we're going to be doing, is building our common law courts.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, this is just a paragraph.

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Rebecca Roberts: Long before any rulers held sway over humanity, men and women established customs and laws among themselves to ensure their peace and liberties as free, self-governing people.

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Rebecca Roberts: They did so from an inherent recognition of a natural law of equality or divine law.

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Rebecca Roberts: Whereby, no one has any right to dominate or rule over others, to seize more of creation than another, or to own any part of a world given equally to all people.

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Rebecca Roberts: It is the divine principle of creation that every child born is endowed with unalienable liberties that no authority, law, government, or religion can diminish or abolish. Any power that attempts to do so is tyrannical and illegitimate.

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Rebecca Roberts: Even if it operates according to its own laws.

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Rebecca Roberts: For such tyranny is a denial of the natural order.

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Rebecca Roberts: And an attack upon divinity and humanity.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, by now, you know you're all sovereign, but you probably don't really know how that happened, unless you've read all the old articles. So, just before we get into that, the three great principles of natural law are…

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Rebecca Roberts: All things exist and are held in common, number one.

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Rebecca Roberts: Number two, by extension, no one has any natural authority over another.

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Rebecca Roberts: That's the equality there.

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Rebecca Roberts: And then number 3, the law does harm to no one.

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Rebecca Roberts: That's all pretty easy, right? It's just 3 basic tenets.

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Rebecca Roberts: And we can remember that.

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Rebecca Roberts: So they are… All things exist and are held in common.

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Rebecca Roberts: So that is by the state of nature. No one has any more of a claim to the earth and its wealth than any other.

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Rebecca Roberts: That's from the founder of modern law, Thomas Hobbes.

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Rebecca Roberts: And then the second one, which is the equality one.

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Rebecca Roberts: In the words of Jean-Jacques Rousseau in The Social Contract of 1762, since no man has a natural authority over his fellow and force creates no right, we must conclude that covenants form the basis of all legitimate authority among men.

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Rebecca Roberts: That's a hard one. Actually, that's… I'm gonna read it again. Since no man has a natural authority over his fellow, and force creates no right.

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Rebecca Roberts: We must conclude that covenants form the basis of all legitimate authority among men.

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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah, we know about the, bullies, right? The forceful ones.

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Rebecca Roberts: And then the ones that lord over us, they're completely illegitimate, according to Jean-Jacques Rousseau in The Social Contract of 1762. That's the equality of our common law. And then the third part, the goodness.

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Rebecca Roberts: The law does harm to no one. That's what I call it. I call it the good part.

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Rebecca Roberts: It's like goodness, beauty, and truth kind of rolled into one. The law does no harm to no man. Actus Regis Nemeni facti injurium. That's the Latin in brackets. Taken off the page, never write Latin on your page in a notice or anything, because…

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Rebecca Roberts: Then you would be considered two-minded and making gibberish, and they will throw your notice out.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, always put it in brackets, though I just say it now, but that's something we'll cover later. Arising from the natural law of equity and harmony, no one can lawfully harm another.

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Rebecca Roberts: And if one does no harm to another, he cannot be guilty of any offense.

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Rebecca Roberts: John Stuart Mill articulated this principle in his work, On Liberty, where he argued that the only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised

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Rebecca Roberts: Over any member of a civilized community against its will is to prevent harm to others.

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Rebecca Roberts: 1869.

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Rebecca Roberts: So… What's our main job?

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Rebecca Roberts: People of the assembly.

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Rebecca Roberts: Do you… just… chime in. What are we doing?

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Jeanne Scott: Causing no harm to anyone else.

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Rebecca Roberts: Yes!

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Rebecca Roberts: What else?

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Becky Rivenbark Pender County NC: the people in the asset.

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Rebecca Roberts: Fantastic!

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Rebecca Roberts: What else?

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Nancy Goldstein: No one has power over the other.

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Rebecca Roberts: Right.

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Rebecca Roberts: Wow! You guys are genius! We can close the meeting now. Okay, so you said it all, I don't even need to say it. That was fantastic, guys. …

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Rebecca Roberts: So, how do we do this?

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Rebecca Roberts: Protect the people, protect the assets, promote the… and protect and develop public resources, do no harm to anyone.

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Rebecca Roberts: We're equal. How do we make that happen?

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Rebecca Roberts: Please just chime in.

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Nancy Goldstein: Work together.

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Rebecca Roberts: Worked together, I heard, and someone else?

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Jeanne Scott: I said, no, I dear.

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Rebecca Roberts: Honesty is the highest frequency. Okay, Dan's answering by text. Give orders to our contractors, yes! Yes!

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Rebecca Roberts: And you know what? What do we do if our contractors, don't do their job?

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Nancy Goldstein: Sick neathi on them.

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Rebecca Roberts: Who has a delegating power?

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Rebecca Roberts: For subcontractors.

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Nancy Goldstein: We're the people.

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Jeanne Scott: the people?

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Rebecca Roberts: Yes, we do.

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Rebecca Roberts: And… who else has a delegating power is our federation. And you know what? Because I have such a huge gratitude, and I'm sure you all do too, with all the work that our federation and all of the team and the law team do for all of us.

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Rebecca Roberts: Out of the goodness of their hearts, I just want to take a moment to look at that, if you don't mind.

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Nancy Goldstein: Go for it.

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Rebecca Roberts: Why do we need a federation? Okay, because I've heard rumblings, I think we all have, of, we don't need Ana, she said, self-govern, we don't need her, goodbye!

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Rebecca Roberts: And that is absolutely wrong.

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Rebecca Roberts: Of course we need Anna! Why do we need Anna? She's part of the Federation. That's the main thing, right? And we need, James Belscher, head of state, who endowed upon every living American born on the land and soil or naturalized here.

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Rebecca Roberts: Sovereignty.

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Rebecca Roberts: He was able to endow this huge, beneficent gift To every one of us.

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Rebecca Roberts: This is a really big deal, of course we need them.

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Jeanne Scott: What was his name again, please?

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Rebecca Roberts: James Bell Sh… so it's Bell Cher in the French, and they transliterated it into the

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Rebecca Roberts: American English as Belscher, B-E-L-C-H-E-R.

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Rebecca Roberts: I'll give you the, article number, you can read all about him if you like.

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Rebecca Roberts: So…

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Rebecca Roberts: The Federation is the employer of the, like Dan said, the federal subcontractors, and the delegator of all the delegated powers of the federal government.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, delegator is very important power that you have as a people, and you have as an office, and you have as a member of an assembly.

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Rebecca Roberts: A delegator of all the delegated powers and of the federal government.

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Rebecca Roberts: is what the Federation does. It is the principal Remember that word.

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Rebecca Roberts: That holds these powers.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, when the federal subcontractors… we can just say the U.S. of A Incorporated.

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Rebecca Roberts: And they have a bunch of other names, and there's actually 3 of them, but we'll just… we'll just roll it all up into the U.S. of A Incorporated. When the federal subcontract to the U.S. of A Sub Incorporated are, number 1, unable to perform.

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Rebecca Roberts: And who's their employer?

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Nancy Goldstein: We are….

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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah, so who determines whether or not they can perform?

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Jeanne Scott: The Federation.

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Nancy Goldstein: We do….

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Rebecca Roberts: And?

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Rebecca Roberts: And the people.

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Rebecca Roberts: the assemblies, okay? We are… we are… We have delegator powers, okay?

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Rebecca Roberts: We have to work together for that, like someone said earlier. The exact difference between common law and civil law and common law… okay, I didn't read all that, I have to pull it up now.

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Rebecca Roberts: In common law, the people truly have the voice when they assemble. Correct. And… Thank you for saying that.

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Rebecca Roberts: Alright, so number one. When the U.S. of Incorporated is unable to perform, we decide that they're not performing.

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Rebecca Roberts: Or number 2, cease to function, i.e, go into Chapter 7.

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Rebecca Roberts: Which is… Involuntary?

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Rebecca Roberts: Bankruptcy.

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Rebecca Roberts: I think that's ceasing to function, don't you? The delegated powers, all of our assemblies and the Federation.

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Rebecca Roberts: Grant, in specificity and in the enumerated powers that we gave them.

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Rebecca Roberts: Like, if they do other things, like healthcare, that's not given to them, and it's in their constitution, which is their handbook of how they're supposed to behave.

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Rebecca Roberts: Then the powers are reverted back to the Federation and automatically back.

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Rebecca Roberts: As well, okay?

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Rebecca Roberts: So the Federation is essential to enforce the contracts and the constitutions, and it has the authority and the responsibility to bring the states into session as well. So that's another thing the Federation has done for us all, is they brought us into session

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Rebecca Roberts: And we are grateful.

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Rebecca Roberts: At least I am. I'm sure you are too. And has… they have the… one of the other things that the Federation has and why we need them is they have the oversight of the assembling process. As you know, in our own assembly here, we had some

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Rebecca Roberts: things we needed to correct, and the Federation swooped in, as they can and have the power to do, as an oversight of an assembling process.

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Rebecca Roberts: And corrected our course, and assisted us in

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Rebecca Roberts: Taking a new and corrected path.

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Rebecca Roberts: For which we are grateful, and of course, it has, you know, harmed us somehow, but we've also learned so much, so perhaps we move forward with gratitude for everything we've learned, and … bring up the vibration and the frequency that we want to, …

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Rebecca Roberts: definitely bring to all of the people. Okay, so…

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Rebecca Roberts: Let me see if I can find that one. No, I can't find the one on sovereignty quite this second.

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Rebecca Roberts: But I would like to talk about sovereignty, with all of you, because it's so important, and it really is the beginning of claiming your stat… what you get when you claim your status is your… your sovereignty is so important. I think it's here…

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Rebecca Roberts: I'll send it to you, Jean, if I… I get that article number. I know I have it somewhere, and I'm looking for it now.

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Rebecca Roberts: Alright, so… That's it for my…

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Rebecca Roberts: thing today. Does anyone else have anything?

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Rebecca Roberts: Does anyone else have anything to bring that, is pertinent to our general assembly, our Jural pillar, and what they would like to see happen? Also, we can create the goals for ourselves. Those who are here today are the ones, because we made the announcement to the people, and

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Rebecca Roberts: Anybody here?

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Rebecca Roberts: are the ones who get to decide how we move forward and what we want to work on. So…

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Rebecca Roberts: Let's go around the table, everybody. Find your voice, and think about what you would like to see.

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Rebecca Roberts: the Jural Assembly, Happy to do.

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Rebecca Roberts: to enact, to teach?

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Rebecca Roberts: To notice?

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Rebecca Roberts: to protect the people and the assets? How do you want to see that happening, since that's our job?

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Rebecca Roberts: Do you want to work on driving? Do you want to work on noticing the sheriff so we have some enforcement? Do you want to work on education? Do you not know what's happening, and you just need your… a little more land legs here? So, let me know, because I'm here to help.

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Nancy Goldstein: Just chining.

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Rebecca Roberts: All of the above. Okay, so what would be your priority for, like, 1, 2, and 3, Nancy?

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Nancy Goldstein: Noticing sheriffs is pretty high on the list.

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Nancy Goldstein: … I guess driving, too, but we've kind of talked about that a little bit.

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Nancy Goldstein: And… preparing to be jurors.

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Jeanne Scott: Yeah.

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Rebecca Roberts: Jury, okay.

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Rebecca Roberts: Very good.

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Rebecca Roberts: Next, round the table, past the baton.

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Jeanne Scott: I was just gonna basically say the same to help in any way we can with… to get the courts together, and the juries.

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Jeanne Scott: I want to definitely know more about the sovereignty.

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Jeanne Scott: Because… I'm confused about that issue, because some people say that being sovereign is…

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Jeanne Scott: almost like a bad thing, and so I want to know the difference.

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Jeanne Scott: Between what we think it is, and what others think it is.

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Jeanne Scott: I yield.

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Rebecca Roberts: Great, that's awesome.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, so far, let's go around the table. So far, we have Nancy saying, noticing the sheriffs, and, building the jury, learning about how to pick the jury, all that.

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Rebecca Roberts: And then… Gene said, court…

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Rebecca Roberts: Standing is important to her, and then the education around that, and then she wants to know about sovereignty.

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Rebecca Roberts: Next!

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Rebecca Roberts: Pass the baton.

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Becky Rivenbark Pender County NC: I concur with what they said.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, what would you say first, Becky? Sheriffs, jury, or standing the courts? I mean, jury and standing the courts are close, but we do need to educate the…

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Rebecca Roberts: The jurors and…

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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah, and create the pool, so what would be… and education, of course. What would be on the top of your list, Becky?

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Becky Rivenbark Pender County NC: We need to educate our members so they understand.

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Becky Rivenbark Pender County NC: and… With more understanding, I think they would volunteer to be jurors.

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Rebecca Roberts: Okay.

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Rebecca Roberts: Okay, got it.

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Rebecca Roberts: Juries, okay. Juries and education. And then, Dan.

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Rebecca Roberts: Please get me there, I can easy dig for those to help with teaching. Okay, great. Perfect. Well, actually, Dan, you're gonna be doing a… the 15-minute start to the Jural Assembly sometime.

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Rebecca Roberts: So you can bring your stuff. And so, let's see, Neeti, what would your be goals for for the Jural Pillar?

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Rebecca Roberts: Indeed, who else is on here?

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I want everyone to learn, about the jury nullification.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Because, you know, we need to go ahead and nullify whatever we can start nullifying and noticing.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I don't know if people really comprehend that, so, ….

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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I think maybe we talk about that, and, …

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I don't know how many cases that we're gonna have.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: As far as our courts go, because we don't do victimless crimes, and there's over 700,000, victimless, men in prison, and, you know, I mean men and women.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Just here on North Carolina. And I think we need to be really focused on how to get them out.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And I think that, the jury nullification is part of that, but having our courts, being able to pull them out and, and rendering them

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: innocent.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: is probably more important than all the things that most people think about. I mean, most of these people right now, the deranged ones, are so busy trying to hate each other that they're not realizing this isn't about us, this is about the ones that are locked up unnecessarily.

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Rebecca Roberts: Very good, yeah, that is a really good goal. When one man is not free, then no man can be free. And if we have our fellow

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Rebecca Roberts: we can't be free until they are. So, I agree. So, yeah, we can work on that. Jury nullification. So, we need to build the juries, and we need to educate, looks like. And on the side, we can run the noticing. So, what I would…

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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah, 100% empty the pr… well, not empty… empty the… yeah.

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Rebecca Roberts: there are criminals as well, right? But we want to empty the prisons of the ones who have not harmed and not…

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Rebecca Roberts: work together. So, we can start then, next week, in earnest, with our goal to get our courts up, which means educating our juries so that we can begin

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Rebecca Roberts: only citizens are enforcing with noticing? I mean…

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Rebecca Roberts: So, I need to… we here on the Journal can choose to be state citizens.

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Rebecca Roberts: And then, Nithy and I were talking about this, we're gonna do a little more research. Do we all have to be state citizens?

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Rebecca Roberts: But, I know I need to be. And then I… I believe, from what I read and what I remember, that any office in the Jural Pillar needs to be a state citizen. So, that's down the road.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: When you are actively operating as a juror on a case.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Or when you were operating. Then you were a citizen for that time.

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Rebecca Roberts: Okay, sounds good. Okay, so… oh, I better look at the chat, because there's 7 things on there. It only says enforcing notices, and…

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Rebecca Roberts: Noticing empty prisons of the book. Okay.

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Rebecca Roberts: Alright, so, is there anything else anybody would like to bring up about, what we're doing on the Jural Pillar?

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Rebecca Roberts: Right. So, we've never done this before, and we have some help from Ana and…

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Rebecca Roberts: The coordinators have been working on handbooks. There's the Jural Assembly Handbook, which is, I don't know, a hundred and something pages. I had it right here when I printed it off.

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Rebecca Roberts: We are electing officers for such things as a clerk of the court, justice, or… we call it something… I think that's what we call it, yeah, justice.

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Rebecca Roberts: We have a marshal at arms for the court, we have a jury, and we have the coroner, and we have a couple other offices, and we elect those offices, and then we can come into session, and then we would need to establish our provenance.

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Rebecca Roberts: And a couple of other things. And then, we can start by training ourselves with a mock core. It's really not as difficult as it seems overwhelming.

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Rebecca Roberts: very empowering and straightforward process. But because so tonight we have 6 people on the call, like, that wouldn't be even enough for a petite jury, which would be 12.

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Rebecca Roberts: We need enough people to stand up our courts, to have a grand jury, 24, and then one extra with court officers, so…

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Rebecca Roberts: So, sorry, we… so… The count is 25.

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Rebecca Roberts: And now we need to… yeah, we need to be educated, so that's gonna take time.

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Rebecca Roberts: Let me just go around as our last thing tonight, and see if you can see in your mind's eye, because, you know, we don't need to bother doing anything unless we have a shared common goal, and it sounds like

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Rebecca Roberts: Which sounds to me like standing up our courts. We're gonna need to elect officials as well.

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Rebecca Roberts: pool can be not just from the juroral pillar. That can be outside of our pillar. It can be coming from the General Assembly. Any state national can be in the jury.

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Rebecca Roberts: And in the jury pool. In fact, they all should be in the pool, unless they request not to be, and that's another process. But…

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Rebecca Roberts: We would want them to step forward and volunteer to be on the jury, right? And then we'll begin with our education and our mock trials.

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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah, continue to learn. Yeah, when we have that, then our, dural pillar really can be focused on

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Rebecca Roberts: Due process. Yeah. And then that will… you know, we have to empower ourselves, and only knowledge or education can do that.

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Rebecca Roberts: And so that's what I'm here for.

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Rebecca Roberts: And that's what we're all here for, because we're all gonna study and learn and bring things that we learn and ask questions, hopefully. Because this is really…

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Rebecca Roberts: You know, we… we're… in the future, the juries are not going to be called as often as they will be at the outset, because of the infestation of criminality in our lives, in our cultures, in our towns, in our skies, in everything.

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Rebecca Roberts: And then once that's cleaned up, then we'll probably have very little when we have educated nationals, self-governing.

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Rebecca Roberts: like, we're only gonna be here if someone is harmed. And then, the other main thing that we do, as I said earlier in the teaching part, was…

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Rebecca Roberts: Will we protect the assets?

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Rebecca Roberts: as Becky said, and the… well, the people, which are the assets… the people and the assets, yeah? And then, the other thing is, we also protect the resources, like the roads, the bridges.

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Rebecca Roberts: have a say in. Of course, the international businesses, there's a crossover here, and there'll be things that we do together, and there'll be things that we do apart, and there'll be things that one picks up and the other doesn't. But, we'll figure that all out, but we do have a job to…

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Rebecca Roberts: you know, protect, and that's why I was asking those questions, like, how are we gonna do that? And that's what you guys all said. Well, we have to set up our courts.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, back to the question, does anyone else have anything that they would like to…

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Rebecca Roberts: See happen in the drawer pillar, and then we'll close the meeting.

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Nancy Goldstein: Methy has her hand up.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I was gonna say that the international business pillar is the one that communicates To the de facto

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And the general assembly enforces whatever is communicated. So, if everyone starts to think of it that way, that might help. And also, I think that, you know, everybody wants to do these mock trials and things.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: But maybe focusing on the nullification might help, but listen, once Anna has enough enforcement on the ground, on the various states.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And the communication channel, right, open to communicate with the de facto.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: You can decide, If we even want these people.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: to be working for us anymore. So think about that as the easier way, like…

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: He keeps talking about The Wizard of Oz.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: She talks about throwing the bucket of water on the wicked Witch of the West.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: think of the de facto as the Wicked Witch of the West.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: and you throw a bucket of water on them, they just dissolve. They have nowhere to be. So, 99% of our problems could just be gone.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: By just firing them.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And then we can go through the prison system, for example, decide all the victimless people, you know, all the victimless crimes, we can work on those folks, and we can figure out who needs to stay, and who needs to go, and how it's going to be, and how we're going to handle it. Because on the land.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: We don't hold people in prison. If they have caused harm, if they took a life, we take their life. If they raped somebody, we… we don't… they don't live. Like, if we enforce land law on all of them, then…

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: It's gonna be a different world.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Just generally speaking, because we don't hold people that are dangerous Because that's crazy.

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Rebecca Roberts: They do.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: It doesn't make sense in the way that what everybody's used to in this Walt Disney World, fake actor world, but that.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: That is what the land jurisdiction's about. Anyway, I yield with that.

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Dan Diescher: Yeah, man.

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Rebecca Roberts: Thank you for yielding. Go ahead, Dan.

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Dan Diescher: Yeah, thank you for, bearing with me, guys, I had to get some food. And Neithi, I couldn't agree anymore. Every bit of it, mock trials, in my mind, would be a waste of time, because that's not what we're doing here. If we're doing mock trials, then we're still… we're still pretending that the other system exists.

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Dan Diescher: This isn't… that's not what we're doing here. We don't believe in that, so to speak, and anybody can correct me if I'm wrong, but this is all about knowing how to stand in your square, your power, and realizing that it's only us to notify them. The same places where we began… excuse me, we began this

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Dan Diescher: It was our job to notify them. We don't ask for things, we don't picket, we don't protest. And if you don't know your power, then it's time to keep reading.

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Dan Diescher: So, I couldn't agree more, Needy. …

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Dan Diescher: it's just time to keep moving, especially with all the strong people, you know, especially with Rebecca, what you said last night, about, you know.

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Dan Diescher: throwing out our, you know, as a lifeguard, giving our energy to people that just aren't ready, and it's not that we're not here, we need to open our lines of education, and we need to keep everybody learning, but at the same time, we got our backs against the wall, and it's go time, so it's hard…

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Dan Diescher: to argue with what Niti said, I yield.

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Rebecca Roberts: Thank you both.

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Rebecca Roberts: MOC trials are just as an educational…

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Rebecca Roberts: exercise, not as trying to imitate de facto. But, yeah, if people are not wanting to do those, that's fine. We've got plenty of other work to do.

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Rebecca Roberts: We will have trials by jury, or jury trials, sorry, and …

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Rebecca Roberts: our jury needs to know how that goes. You know, we're gonna be hearing civil and criminal cases, we're gonna…

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Rebecca Roberts: have to know what… how that goes. That is maybe down the road, because we have a… like you say, Anithi and Dan, we both have… we all have a ton of work to do before we're ready for any trial, but it just brings a level of, like, calm to those people who are not…

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Rebecca Roberts: clear about how a jury or a juroral pillar works, because there's a ton in the juroral pillar that isn't about the court, that, like you're saying, we have a lot going on. So, jury nullification is…

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Rebecca Roberts: Very important, and we can do a carte blanche

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Rebecca Roberts: law. We are the, … we have a delegated power, and we will, once we're formed and stood up.

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Rebecca Roberts: And we will make the law, which will free any… Nonviolent crime, so-called crime.

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Rebecca Roberts: And that will be a carte blanche for all. And then when cases come up where there's a mixed…

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Rebecca Roberts: then that will be, you know, I guess it'll be more of an individual point-to-point, … Type of, …

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Rebecca Roberts: jury nullification. So yeah, we should do that. How do others feel about that?

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Becky Rivenbark Pender County NC: Well, they say practice makes perfect, so if anybody learns their role, that's helpful.

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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah.

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Rebecca Roberts: Thank you for that.

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Dan Diescher: I remember last.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Yeah, I mean, either you can go first, or whatever. Are you?

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: All I was gonna say was that, we definitely need to practice, Rebecca, what Rebecca's saying. We have to practice in the sense of, when we're calling our people out of their courts to start with, for example, then we do have to responsibly run them through our court, and then, you know, presume them innocent, and, like, actually go through this process just to

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: you know, remedy that situation, but as far… I mean, as far as the ones that are declared, I don't know, like, depending on how serious some of the charges are.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: with a de facto guy, right? Then that guy wants justice for whatever it is that he wants from us, and we can just say, well, in our courts, you know, there is no crime. Or if there's harm caused, then we just fix it, and that's it.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: But we want our guy to be… I guess our guy would want to be tried in our court, not in their court. I guess that's why we would want to make sure that we…

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: have a solution for them. I'm sorry, I kind of rambled, I yielded.

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Rebecca Roberts: No, no, that made total sense.

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Rebecca Roberts: To me.

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Dan Diescher: May I go right after that?

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Rebecca Roberts: Alright, do you yield, Nisi?

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Rebecca Roberts: Were you finished, Nepy?

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Dan Diescher: No, you're good. It was everything that I was gonna say, just on a different spectrum, and that's exactly right. But as the new people… I say new people, or people are still learning.

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Dan Diescher: And it's all about the… back to mentalism, right? When we say chords, it's still so hard for… for people, as they're learning.

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Dan Diescher: To signify the difference, because until we have our courts set up, when we say courts, and we talk about mock trials.

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Dan Diescher: we do have to have some mock trials in order to treat people fairly and to be perfect in our own sense and the way we walk. But until we set up our courts, so to speak, here we go again with the English language, right? That doesn't exist. It's not even a possibility. So until we set up our courts.

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Dan Diescher: what is the point of having a mock trial of how we're gonna treat other people fairly? That's all I'm getting at. I think we're…

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Dan Diescher: We're putting the, you know, the horse in front of, you know, the carriage in front of the horse. That's all. I'll yield.

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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah, thank you for that good perspective, and because today was, like, a focus group for where we're going with this, and having a goal together, that's why we're a little ahead of ourselves, but we'll reel it back. Go ahead, Neeti.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: To Dan's point, the difference between our courts and their courts is we actually have a court of law. Their courts are banks, and they're doing banking transactions. So let me just yield with that.

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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah, very well said. In fact, that's a great ending, unless anyone else would like to…

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Rebecca Roberts: speak to our conversation tonight, or any other things that popped up that they really want to make sure we do in the next few weeks. Otherwise, we have a…

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Rebecca Roberts: We have a goal in mind, which is… I'm thinking is gonna take about 6 months.

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Rebecca Roberts: Is that… how does that sound, and any other comments?

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Rebecca Roberts: From Nancy, Jean, or Becky?

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Nancy Goldstein: I got nothing.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: That's reasonable and also advanced, and I think you're such a good teacher that it's 100% possible.

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Rebecca Roberts: I can do.

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Dan Diescher: It's….

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Rebecca Roberts: But….

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Dan Diescher: We love everybody's energy. Thank you all for coming and attending and giving us your time, because remember, you know, just like the concept of what we're doing here, you are the interested value. Without you, we don't exist either.

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Dan Diescher: So, you know, it's no different than casting a vote, so to speak, you know, but here you're not giving your power away. You're letting us stand up so you can stand up with us, and you can continue to have a voice. I yield.

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Rebecca Roberts: Thank you so much, Dan, and thank you for being here. Thank you, Neathi, for being here. Thank you, Nancy, and Becky, and Jean.

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Rebecca Roberts: And I think that's all for tonight, for our first one!

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Rebecca Roberts: So I looked… does anyone, make a move to, end the meeting?

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Nancy Goldstein: I make a move to adjourn the meeting.

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Dan Diescher: Alright, second….

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Rebecca Roberts: Alright then, we will end now, and please send anything to my email.

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Rebecca Roberts: If you have any questions, or you can call me or text me if you have that info. If you don't, I will make sure I get it to you. And then, the next meeting that we'll have will be the same time, same day, and it's the 27th of August, so I look forward to seeing you all at that.

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Rebecca Roberts: And we'll get started on our plan of action, which is… Getting our jury standing!

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Rebecca Roberts: Full and non-lullification of the jury.

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Rebecca Roberts: With that….

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Dan Diescher: Before, before we close real fast…

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Dan Diescher: Before we close real fast, the importance of… before the, you know, because this is meeting number one, I'd just like to, exemplify the importance of

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Dan Diescher: our Juroral assembly. Because if our Juroral assembly was actually formed, we can, by Juroral assembly, give orders, even if we don't have our own sheriff, to the existing sheriff, because he still has to do, you know, hold his own.

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Dan Diescher: I, I, you know, I….

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Rebecca Roberts: Say that point again, Dan, please.

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Dan Diescher: He… he… we don't have to technically elect our own sheriff, but by, you know, the Constitution and all the rules, USC, you know, everything.

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Dan Diescher: If we did have our jury pool, and I could be corrected, somebody correct me if I'm wrong, if we did have our jury pool appointed, we could actually give orders to the sheriff and make him accountable for standing orders. I'll yield.

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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: 100%.

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Rebecca Roberts: And also, the International Business Assembly can do the same.

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Rebecca Roberts: And also the general assembly, which has the highest power anyway, can do the same. We can be noticing them from all of these different assemblies that we have, so just put that in mind as well.

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Rebecca Roberts: So, yeah, there are employees, the sheriffs work for the people, and we can be noticing them, so that's also… you're doing that on the business, so…

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Rebecca Roberts: Anyway, we ended the meeting, so now we're continuing, so… I'm gonna end the meeting, and I'm gonna send the recording to where it goes, and try and figure that part out. And thanks for coming, everyone! Have a really good night, and….

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Jeanne Scott: Thank you.

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Rebecca Roberts: I hope to see you next week! Goodbye!

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Jeanne Scott: Bye!

00:20:38 Dan Diescher: Give orders to our contractors
00:21:16 Dan Diescher: We do!
00:24:27 Dan Diescher: The exact difference between common law and civil law. In common law, the People truly have the voice, when they assemble!
00:28:16 Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Sorry I’m running late
00:31:25 Dan Diescher: Rebecca, please get with me later, I can easily dig for literature to help with teaching.
00:32:24 Dan Diescher: I have the book, working on it.
00:33:55 Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: 100% EMPTY THE PRISONS
00:34:11 Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: IBA is noticing
00:34:19 Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Citizens are noticing
00:34:35 Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Only citizens are enforcing with notices
00:34:38 Dan Diescher: Reacted to IBA is noticing with "❤️"
00:39:58 Dan Diescher: Please get onto annavonreitz,com and put into the search engine, standing the courts, 4 pillars, etc. Please continue to read. You don't have to read front to back. Picking up pages here or there is better than nothing!
00:54:27 Jeanne Scott: please send me your info Becky 919-548-0863
00:55:04 Becky Rivenbark Pender County NC: Reacted to "please send me your …" with 👍