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The Parallels Between Ukrainian Nationalism and Zionism: A Deep Dive with Tarik Cyril Amar
In this episode of the Lib Podcast, Sacha and Benji are joined by historian Tarik Cyril Amar to explore the psychological and ideological parallels between Ukrainian nationalism and Zionism. They discuss the historical roots, the influence of imperial powers, and the contemporary implications of these movements. From the manipulation by foreign powers to the surprising similarities in their quest for 'innocence,' this conversation delves into complex themes of nationalism, historical revisionism, and the socio-political landscape in Ukraine and Israel. The trio also touches on the broader ramifications of these ideologies on global politics and society.
Tarik's Substack - the 9th Wavec: https://www.tarikcyrilamar.com/
YT: @TarikCyrilAmar-The9thWave
Twitter: https://x.com/TarikCyrilAmar
Tarik's books:
- The Paradox of Ukrainian Lviv: A Borderland City between Stalinists, Nazis, and Nationalists
- James Bond's Socialist Rivals. Television Spy Heroes and Popular Culture in the Cold War East
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References:
Andreas Malm: The Destruction of Palestine Is the Destruction of the Earth https://www.versobooks.com/en-ca/blogs/news/the-destruction-of-palestine-is-the-destruction-of-the-earth?srsltid=AfmBOoqajN3yZyurGtZjqxO5Ht9qWiqQJG7r90KvcM0SvxzYEzkGPjKM
Ivan Katchanovski. The Maidan Massacre in Ukraine. The Mass Killing that Changed the World
Chapters
00:00 Striving for Innocence: Zionism and Ukrainian Nationalism
00:42 Ukrainian Nationalism and Its Dark Side
01:12 The Illusion of Democracy
01:59 The Shock of Societal Realities
02:30 The Psychology of Resistance
03:33 Introduction to the Podcast
03:42 Guest Introduction: Tarik Serial
04:29 The Psychology of Zionism and Ukrainian Nationalism
05:42 Historical Context of Ukrainian Nationalism
13:21 The Fascist Turn in Ukrainian Nationalism
15:46 The Holocaust and Ukrainian Collaboration
28:34 The Holodomor: Famine and Genocide Debate
37:41 Western Narratives and Historical Revisionism
41:44 Modern Geopolitical Implications
56:46 Transformation of Ukrainian Community in Canada
57:18 Cold War Ends: New Access to Ukraine
57:39 Rise of Right-Wing Nationalism in Ukraine
58:46 Parental Influence and Child Abuse
59:49 Comparison with Zionism and Covert Power Struggles
01:00:47 Influence on Academia and Media
01:02:39 Zelensky's Vision for Ukraine
01:04:22 Western Support and Moral Implications
01:17:48 Settler Colonialism and Genocide
01:34:13 Hope and Resistance
01:41:27 Conclusion and Call to Action
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