The Bickle Playbook: Forgiveness Without Repentance | Jed Hartley | Episode 412

John and Jed discuss the recent speech defending Mike Bickle and how it attempted to frame the public perception of her brother, Mike. They reflect on how her tone and phrasing followed recognizable manipulation strategies, and how those techniques were familiar to anyone who had grown up under strong religious authority. Jed explains why Lisa’s words were especially difficult for him to hear, given his own history, and outlines how attempts to minimize or excuse misconduct affect survivors. John adds his perspective on what it felt like to hear the language as if he were in the congregation and how the approach mirrored experiences from his past.

Together they examine the wider implications for the International House of Prayer community and beyond. They compare how prophetic authority and promises of revival can be used to cover wrongdoing, and how this dynamic has played out repeatedly. They also highlight how leaders in the broader movement have responded, often with silence, and the consequences this has for accountability. Throughout the discussion, both hosts emphasize how the rhetoric of forgiveness has been misapplied in ways that silence those raising concerns, and they call out the difference between genuine redemption and using faith to maintain power.______________________
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00:00 Introduction
01:04 Why This Episode Matters
02:27 The DARVO Pattern Revisited
05:03 Lisa Bickle’s Sermons and Strategic Framing
08:01 Using Victims’ Past to Justify Mike
10:17 John’s Multi-Layered Reaction
12:04 Manipulation in Cult Structures
14:02 Social Media as “Mocking God”
16:04 Early Allegations and Prophetic Grooming
18:04 Online Backlash and the Bickle Inner Circle
20:14 Lisa’s Anger and Targeting of Accusers
22:04 Turning Point: Tammy’s Testimony
25:50 Revival Narrative vs. Victim Testimony
28:24 Reckoning with Family Loyalty and Truth
30:06 Impact on the Hope City Community
33:15 Legacy of Prophetic Abuse
35:34 Outside Perspectives on Indoctrination
37:05 Spiritual Spectacle as Distraction
41:03 Mold in the House: A Prophetic Metaphor
44:54 Justifying Abuse in the Name of Destiny
47:05 The Prosperity Defense
48:14 The False Redemption Arc
51:19 Comparing Real Penance to Manipulated Forgiveness
54:04 No Repentance, No Restoration
56:05 Justice Rhetoric Without Justice
58:59 Closing Thoughts on Power and Silence
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