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A Longer Clip of Matt Slick's "Boastful" Calvinism
On a SOTERIOLOGY 101 discussion board, TROY M. said this:
■ It is really important that we correctly represent Calvinists when we are arguing with them. You have incorrectly represented Matt Slick. He is NOT talking about God saving him because of his good works. He is talking about God giving him specific skills and tasks because he knew what his plan for Matt Slick was. This much of the problem with using short snippets to refute people. Use their entire context to be sure that you are actually on topic. Slick is not speaking soteriologically here, and so this is a fallacy called a strawman.
I responded with this extended clip of the debate between Matt Slick and Leighton Flowers:
FULL DEBATE HERE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V0YpZ0FnSQ
MY ORIGINAL VIDEO: https://rumble.com/v6y4kk4-matt-slicks-boastful-calvinism.html
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TROY M. Thank you. I wasn't tracking with that. I will give it a listen again [....] Okay, the best route is to say maybe Matt Slick, upon further reflection would say he misspoke. But here is what I am hearing, and it was all about soteriology -- but please, give me a time-stamp and I will revisit (emphasis added - time stamped to my clip):
𝕄𝔸𝕋𝕋 𝕊𝕃𝕀ℂ𝕂
(00:00:00) Responsibility. OK, you said give us the ability to relate via faith, not signs and wonders. The signs and wonders were done to demonstrate who Jesus was, but you're basically implying he wants relationship over salvation. The question is if God wants every individual to be saved, all he has to do, you would agree all he's got to do is just let his kind of presence shine.
(00:00:20) I know this now. (00:00:21) I'm not trying to be unfair. You can't execute my experience and I'm not trying to use in that way. Now. See, you prove me wrong. It's not fair thing for me to do it. I'm not trying to be unfair in that. (00:00:31) I'm just saying that I know of this and it reflects in, excuse me, Act 9:15 when Paul was riding along, this is what happened to Paul the Apostle, the whole Jesus himself, bam, knocked him off his horse knocked, knocked him down. I understand what that means. Not to the extent I'm sure that it happened there because you heard an audible voice.
(00:00:51) I didn't, but I'm telling you, I know what it means to be in the presence of incredible holiness, and the only thing you can do is put your face to the ground and weep because you are in the presence of, of, of, of purity, and you're a Sinner. I freely chose to believe in him right there at that moment when I was 17.
(00:01:10) Why doesn't God do that? Calvinist would say, because God Sovereignly chooses not to do that. 𝑰 𝒃𝒆𝒍𝒊𝒆𝒗𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒓𝒆𝒂𝒔𝒐𝒏 𝒉𝒆 𝒈𝒂𝒗𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒕𝒐 𝒎𝒆 𝒘𝒂𝒔 𝒃𝒆𝒄𝒂𝒖𝒔𝒆 𝒉𝒆 𝒌𝒏𝒆𝒘 𝒘𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝑰'𝒅 𝒃𝒆 𝒅𝒐𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒇𝒐𝒓 𝒂 𝒍𝒊𝒗𝒊𝒏𝒈 -- (𝓁ℴℴ𝓀𝒾𝓃ℊ 𝒹ℴ𝓌𝓃 𝓉𝒽ℯ 𝒸ℴ𝓇𝓇𝒾𝒹ℴ𝓇𝓈 ℴ𝒻 𝓉𝒾𝓂ℯ). 𝑯𝒆 𝒉𝒂𝒅 𝒕𝒐 𝒉𝒂𝒗𝒆 𝒔𝒐𝒎𝒆𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒗𝒆𝒓𝒚 𝒑𝒐𝒘𝒆𝒓𝒇𝒖𝒍, 𝒗𝒆𝒓𝒚 𝒔𝒕𝒓𝒐𝒏𝒈, 𝒕𝒐 𝒌𝒆𝒆𝒑 𝒎𝒆 𝒔𝒕𝒓𝒐𝒏𝒈 𝒕𝒉𝒓𝒐𝒖𝒈𝒉 𝒂𝒍𝒍 (00:01:22) 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒄𝒖𝒍𝒕 𝒄𝒓𝒂𝒑 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒄𝒓𝒂𝒑 𝑰 𝒈𝒐𝒕𝒕𝒂 𝒔𝒕𝒖𝒅𝒚 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒆𝒗𝒆𝒓𝒚𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒇𝒐𝒓 𝒉𝒐𝒖𝒓𝒔 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒚𝒆𝒂𝒓𝒔 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒚𝒆𝒂𝒓𝒔. 𝑻𝒉𝒂𝒕'𝒔 𝒘𝒉𝒂𝒕. 𝑻𝒉𝒂𝒕'𝒔 𝒘𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒎𝒚 𝒐𝒑𝒊𝒏𝒊𝒐𝒏. 𝑩𝒖𝒕 𝒘𝒉𝒂𝒕𝒆𝒗𝒆𝒓. The thing is, all he's got to do. (00:01:30) Is do the same kind of (00:01:31) thing he did to Paul the (00:01:32) Apostle, he can just sit there and go Wham! (00:01:37) He's a chosen vessel of mine. Why is it good to everybody? I have an answer cause God chooses not to. You don't.
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𝕃𝔼𝕀𝔾ℍ𝕋𝕆ℕ 𝔽𝕃𝕆𝕎𝔼ℝ𝕊
(00:01:37) So your answer... (00:01:42) OK, so your your answer is God's decree. Did you know? That's my answer to. Yeah. (00:01:47) I believe that God sovereignly decrees not which choice will make, but that will be free to make a choice that is his choice, which he chooses to grant you responsibility and the choice. Yeah. And acts. Paul actually says that he could resist it. The, the the call upon his heart. And so....
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