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4th September, 2025 - Jural Assembly Meeting
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Rebecca Roberts: Greetings, everyone! This is the Jural Assembly meeting on Wednesday evening at 7.30, September 3rd, 2025.
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Rebecca Roberts: And we're going to begin with, the Bevins. Thank you, Derek.
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Derrick Sudler: Thank you, Becca. Good evening, everyone.
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Derrick Sudler: Reading the bidvis' decision.
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Derrick Sudler: This meeting is private, bearing false witness, misrepresentation, and posting inflammatory rhetoric in public forums. It's forbidden and shall be addressed in the appropriate manner.
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Derrick Sudler: To eliminate all conflict and false allegations, is there anyone in attendance at today's meeting?
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Derrick Sudler: That is a member or agent of any law enforcement agency or public agencies of the federal, state, county, city, or township agencies present.
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Derrick Sudler: Is their response to the business decision for the first time?
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Derrick Sudler: This meeting is private. Bearing false witness, misrepresentation, and posting inflammatory rhetoric in public forums is forbidden and shall be addressed in the appropriate manner.
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Derrick Sudler: To eliminate all conflict and false allegations, is there anyone in attendance at today's meeting?
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Derrick Sudler: That is a member or agent of any law enforcement agency.
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Derrick Sudler: Or public agencies of the federal, state, county, city, or township agencies present.
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Derrick Sudler: Is there a responsive business decision for the second time?
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Derrick Sudler: This meeting is private.
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Derrick Sudler: Bearing false witness, misrepresentation, and posting inflammatory rhetoric in public forums is forbidden.
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Derrick Sudler: And shall be addressed in the appropriate manner.
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Derrick Sudler: to eliminate all conflict and false allegations. Is there anyone in today's Meeting.
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Derrick Sudler: That is a member of any agent… that is a member or agent of any law enforcement agency.
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Derrick Sudler: or public agencies of the federal, state, county, city, or township agencies present? Is there a response to the business decision for the third time?
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Derrick Sudler: Anyone who is here under false pretenses, anyone who is working for any foreign government, including the territorial United States or municipal United States, anyone who is being paid or coaxed to be here.
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Derrick Sudler: Must fully disclose their presence and purpose now, or leave the conference call.
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Derrick Sudler: If they subsequently show up as federal witnesses, they are discredited for failure to disclose.
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Derrick Sudler: Are you now, or have you ever received money or personal support of any kind from the intelligence community?
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Derrick Sudler: Upon no response, To this notice of the Bivens decision, this meeting shall proceed.
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Derrick Sudler: How are you?
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Derrick Sudler: Derek.
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Rebecca Roberts: Thank you very much. I'd like to just take a moment, to honor our Creator.
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Rebecca Roberts: That always is with us, and in this work.
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Rebecca Roberts: It's making us strong and able
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Rebecca Roberts: To do the work that we need to do.
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Rebecca Roberts: Well, as you all know, that this week has begun being a… a week.
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Rebecca Roberts: Of sorrow for many of us.
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Rebecca Roberts: Knowing that our head of state has passed, And,
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Rebecca Roberts: And we all hold in our hearts, and hold Him in the light.
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Rebecca Roberts: So that he might have strength for his journey now, and also, I'm sure he's going to be helping us all our assemblies, since that was one of his life's goals.
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Rebecca Roberts: In fact, I'm going to mention him a couple of times tonight, and if you were on our first and second meeting a couple of weeks ago, I spoke, interestingly, about what it was
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Rebecca Roberts: to be sovereign.
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Rebecca Roberts: So, I just wanted to review that a little bit for those of you who weren't here for that.
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Rebecca Roberts: And,
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Rebecca Roberts: I brought up William Belcher's name that meeting a couple of weeks ago, and I'm gonna mention it again.
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Rebecca Roberts: That we are sovereign, as entrusted by the Creator, and we have also been bequeathed Sovereignty.
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Rebecca Roberts: by William Belcher's Hereditary Heirs and his family.
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Rebecca Roberts: And they gave the right to every American who fought in the War of Independence, and also to every American born on the land and soil, forever after.
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Rebecca Roberts: In the Norman Conquest, in 700 years prior, all men were made kings.
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Rebecca Roberts: And every plot a kingdom, without creating a hierarchy of barons.
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Rebecca Roberts: And William Belscher was the one who ascertained that he possessed the victory, and like his own ancestral benefactor, was enabled and did share this sovereignty.
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Rebecca Roberts: So that, that's huge.
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Rebecca Roberts: I know we don't really think about that very often, but it is a big deal, and it's such a huge honor that he bestowed on us.
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Rebecca Roberts: And then…
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Rebecca Roberts: I just wanted to go over a little bit of why that's important and what happened. So this was the second meeting, that there's only two things we need to do.
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Rebecca Roberts: One is claim our birthright status as sovereign, as we were given.
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Rebecca Roberts: And then two, and this is important, this is all about consent. We refuse the 98 states, so we do not consent to the contracts.
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Rebecca Roberts: How do… we get captured.
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Rebecca Roberts: Does anybody remember or know how we… As living men and women.
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Rebecca Roberts: become captured. Obviously, the birth certificate captures us.
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Rebecca Roberts: Does anything else… because there's one there… well, we probably know the other four. We probably know most… two of those, but, three of those, I mean. But the fourth one, it's… it's interesting to know, and I think you should be aware of it. I refused this at a certain meeting.
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Rebecca Roberts: Well, if there's no one have their hand up… let me see… Yep, contracts, thank you.
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Rebecca Roberts: That's one.
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Rebecca Roberts: Birth certificates, too.
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Rebecca Roberts: We've got, no other hands up or anything, or in the thing?
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Rebecca Roberts: So, identity theft.
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Rebecca Roberts: The all caps name, etc.
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Rebecca Roberts: And… The fourth one, which I think is very surreptitious, and that is pledging to the war flag.
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Rebecca Roberts: If you stand up and put your hand on your heart, and you pledge to that war flag, the British monarch.
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Rebecca Roberts: You are captured.
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Rebecca Roberts: Alright.
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Rebecca Roberts: We went over that a little bit last time.
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Rebecca Roberts: So I don't have to say any more, but I did want to go quickly over what are our rights, and it's a nice long list, but it's always good to hear it.
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Rebecca Roberts: In my opinion, in my humble opinion, I can find it. Oh, here it is. It's on… it's a page up front. Okay. All right, so we have…
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Rebecca Roberts: We have the right to liberty, freedom of movement, thought, speech, conscience, action, and all that is lawful, correct? That's the Ninth Amendment. But we also have the right to life, to preserve life.
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Rebecca Roberts: Liberty, which I already said, property, travel.
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Rebecca Roberts: The right to contract, or not contract. The right to assembly, The right to self-governance.
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Rebecca Roberts: The right to due process.
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Rebecca Roberts: The right to privacy, The right to bear arms, the right to worship.
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Rebecca Roberts: The right to redress, the right to petition for remedy, the right to reject contracts, which I mentioned, and the right to peacefully dissent.
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Rebecca Roberts: Always nice to go over that, makes you feel strong when you hear all of that. And then,
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Rebecca Roberts: I wanted, because our goal here is to learn and to stand up our courts, is I took a little bit, from articles that Anna wrote, and also from the Droll Assembly Handbook, and I have a little…
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Rebecca Roberts: Teaching for everyone today… And no hands up, so we can proceed.
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Rebecca Roberts: So, by now, we all know that
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Rebecca Roberts: And we're coming to a really stark conclusion that we must take control of our government and accept the responsibilities that go with the rights of self-government, or else…
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Rebecca Roberts: Our assets will be plundered.
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Rebecca Roberts: And pillaged to enrich.
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Rebecca Roberts: Kingy Boy and Popey Boy. I shouldn't be so rude, but you know who I'm talking about, the monarch and the papacy.
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Rebecca Roberts: None of us realize how close to being permanently enslaved as a population that we are, and even more so, this actual article was written
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Rebecca Roberts: In 2019, and now we know about the digital control grid that is being installed as we speak, that one of Anna's recent articles was about. So we're even closer to permanent enslavement.
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Rebecca Roberts: We will, or this is what she wrote, will have no claim left to the land and soil of our country. When I say it is time to wake up and form your jural assemblies, is not her opinion.
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Rebecca Roberts: But here is why. The National Trust, like any other property trust, can only endure for 3 generations before being renewed. Otherwise, it is liquidated, and there's no longer any interest preserved for the heirs.
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Rebecca Roberts: And so it's been 3 generations since these con artists began their scheme.
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Rebecca Roberts: And I mention again the honored name of James Belscher and Anna, both established provenance and claim in 1998.
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Rebecca Roberts: And in 2015, they reissued their Sovereign Letters Patent.
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Rebecca Roberts: And this affords us, the people, the opportunity to extend our national trust for another three generations.
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Rebecca Roberts: And she writes in all caps, IF you all get busy and operate your states and form your dural assemblies and act in the capacity of living heirs as people.
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Rebecca Roberts: Then… It will be possible.
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Rebecca Roberts: And in Anna's words, she says, I do not know what I can say or do to make this any clearer for all of you. We are in grave danger of being defrauded out of our entire inheritance.
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Rebecca Roberts: Our land and soil, our businesses, our homes, our labor, our bodies, and our good names.
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Rebecca Roberts: These criminals have conspired to steal it all right from under your noses, just as Thomas Jefferson said they would, unless you are vigilant.
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Rebecca Roberts: And we all know, and we are grateful for both Anna and James being the vigilant ones.
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Rebecca Roberts: So, what are journal assemblies?
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Rebecca Roberts: They are organizational units.
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Rebecca Roberts: of Land and Soil Jurisdiction Courts.
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Rebecca Roberts: And then she speaks a little bit about what we're not. So, she's kind of comparing Jural assemblies to Jural societies. And there'll be a little bit of compare and contrast here. So, it helps us to get clear when we do that. So…
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Rebecca Roberts: We're not dural societies. Jural assemblies are really… They assemble, and societies associate.
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Rebecca Roberts: We don't associate. We only assemble. And juroral assemblies create states and counties, not state of states and counties of, etc.
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Rebecca Roberts: And…
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Rebecca Roberts: So that's what Jural Assemblies do, is create the states and counties. Keep it simple, right? As you can now fully appreciate from
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Rebecca Roberts: this description of the dural societies and the general assemblies, and which one we are. Both of them are actually necessary, because they are both
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Rebecca Roberts: Jurisdiction of land, ours, and then of sea, and we have both, so we need both.
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Rebecca Roberts: But we don't want the sea on the land, flooding the land, and we don't accept that. States are geographically defined areas that are under the control of public laws established by the people who live within their borders, and states are unincorporated. Land and soil
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Rebecca Roberts: Entities.
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Rebecca Roberts: Run as unincorporated businesses.
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Rebecca Roberts: So that's why we need You Call It Law, and it's awesome that Neeti and her team are making that available for us, because also state assemblies will want to, be part of unincorporated businesses and publish our records, notices, etc. on
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Rebecca Roberts: On the,
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Rebecca Roberts: On that, record.
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Rebecca Roberts: So, states have the very simple North Carolina.
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Rebecca Roberts: state.
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Rebecca Roberts: And in America, states are joined together in a union called a federation. And that's also unincorporated, and is called the United States of America, which you all know, and was founded on. And we're coming up to an anniversary September 9th.
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Rebecca Roberts: 1776, so I think that the new 4th of July really is the September 9th, if you ask me, because it's the anniversary of uniting our 50 states.
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Rebecca Roberts: So, I don't know why we don't celebrate that.
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Rebecca Roberts: Right? Because the 4th of July is sort of fake anyway.
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Rebecca Roberts: So, anyway, something to think about. All these organizational forms are created by the living people, not persons, but people, because only people make up dural assemblies. We don't allow anyone to be here
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Rebecca Roberts: Who is not… papered up.
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Rebecca Roberts: has their 928s. We'll get into that.
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Rebecca Roberts: I don't want to just be the one, like, talking the whole time, but we are just checking to see… oh, alright, I wanted to make Derek the…
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Rebecca Roberts: post, let me do that in order. Oh, and Dan is writing, in order to be a society, you would be considered the aggregate of people living together in a more or less ordered community. We give the orders as free men and women, don't get caught in a society. Yeah, right, exactly, Dan.
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Rebecca Roberts: Okay, so, let's see, juroral assembly members decide the physical boundaries of their state, adopt the public laws within their state, and enforce the public law via their juroral assemblies and their land and soil jurisdiction courts and the officers of those courts.
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Rebecca Roberts: Jural assemblies organize the land and soil jurisdiction…
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Rebecca Roberts: Jurisdiction courts owed to the people of each state.
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Rebecca Roberts: Okay? Jural assemblies, organize the Land and Soil Jurisdiction court's owed So we owe the people
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Rebecca Roberts: The organizing of the courts.
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Rebecca Roberts: We're charged with that.
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Rebecca Roberts: General Assembly organizers are responsible for making sure candidate members are eligible to serve. So here's some of the eligibility things that are on the record right now, and that is in most states. Candidates must be at least 21 years old, must have permanent homes declared within the geographic boundaries of their state.
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Rebecca Roberts: Now, this is up for select,
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Rebecca Roberts: what do they call that? Renewal, review election. If we don't agree with this, we can do a review election, and we can state what we want for candidates to be in the general assembly need to be 21, or 25, or whatever, or…
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Rebecca Roberts: 18, whatever we want, we decide, the people decide.
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Rebecca Roberts: And then, should they have permanent homes declared?
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Rebecca Roberts: That's one thing to question, also. Even if the land owned is only their reclaimed good name and bodily estate, so your body. So yes, we all own our bodies, of course, but do we have to have actual
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Rebecca Roberts: soil and soil and land beneath our feet as well, so we just have to discuss that. And then there's some other things in here, and there's very contentious things, which I know you…
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Rebecca Roberts: rewrote the handbook, and that's a great start, but unless the people elect that, it isn't our law. So we'll need to have an election around our handbook for…
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Rebecca Roberts: For sure. We did not rewrite the handbook.
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Rebecca Roberts: Or, you know, you made the.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I want to make this really clear on the record.
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Rebecca Roberts: Well, okay, well, I'm in the middle of a sentence, but hold… okay, go ahead.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: We didn't rewrite it. We corrected the portions that Anna asked us to remove, and that is all. I don't want it to… I don't want anybody to believe that we rewrote it. We just literally.
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Rebecca Roberts: No, no, no.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Moved.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Is that we're not…
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Rebecca Roberts: That's right, that's right. That's very clear to me, and I'm sorry if I wasn't clear about that, but the corrected version of the drill assembly Handbook we have
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Rebecca Roberts: because that's based on things that Anna said we should correct, and and then we would do a selective election… a review election on that, and elect that as our new…
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Rebecca Roberts: and reviewed handbook. So, I'm just letting you know. I'll get into that a little bit.
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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah… Alright, let me just check to see anything is I need to look at. No? Okay.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to speak over you, Rebecca. I apologize for that. I just wanted to make it clear for everybody that we didn't rewrite it, that's all. And I'm sorry I'm cooking in and out, sorry about that.
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Rebecca Roberts: It's okay. It's okay.
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Rebecca Roberts: And then, so, new elections are held within the Assembly to change the 1860 convention, so that was something that Anna put in her initial, and that hasn't changed. The initial state-drilled assembly must be convened by… you're not gonna like this, but this is what was… she… now later…
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Rebecca Roberts: corrected white males meeting other qualifications. So, now we… we do need to have a quorum of 15 in order to have this election.
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Rebecca Roberts: To, you know.
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Rebecca Roberts: have the review of… of that. So, we want to make sure we can all be part of the general assembly, in other words.
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Rebecca Roberts: And then there was also women and people of color will be welcomed into Joel Assemblies, of course, by an update election. And this must occur to open membership to all adult members of the community.
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Rebecca Roberts: So that's what she wrote. So, it is important to note that all people are part of the land and soil jurisdiction of their country, while persons are part of the sea and maritime jurisdiction, which you all know about. And as a result, land and soil jurisdiction courts organized by dual assemblies are courts for people.
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Rebecca Roberts: And then the general societies or courts for… Trade…
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Rebecca Roberts: That is unincorporated, and then incorporated commercial businesses, and not for people.
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Rebecca Roberts: And please note that all juroral assemblies can be incorporated… sorry, that no jural assemblies can be incorporated, of course. They operate exclusively as unincorporated businesses, and all their officers and members are operating in the unincorporated capacity, too.
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Rebecca Roberts: So, when we embark upon the adventure of creating a drural assembly, we must, one.
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Rebecca Roberts: Choose and declare that we are acting in our capacity as one of the people, so we're papered up. Two, you must record your choice with a land recording office formally reconveying your trade name to the land and soil of your state.
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Rebecca Roberts: 3. You must accept the rights, responsibilities, and duties of a state citizen when you act as a juror or in any other public office of the juroral assembly. And four, you must meet the basic requirements and thereby establish standing to act in the capacity of one of the people of your state.
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Rebecca Roberts: Alright, so until we make up the quorum for a general assembly, and until at least a minimum jury pool of originally qualified electorate has been organized and conducted an update election, allowing membership to them.
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Rebecca Roberts: This is not arbitrary, racist, or sexist. It is simply the fact that we are restoring a court system that has not been updated since…
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Rebecca Roberts: I'm trying to do the math here, how many years ago is that? 1860…
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Rebecca Roberts: So… 40… I mean, it's 160 years ago. And at that time, neither people nor… of color nor women were allowed as part of the quorum, and that is why an update election is needed.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Man?
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Rebecca Roberts: You're writing in there, Neithi, all requirements for white-collar women shown as that is de facto, not us.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Anna said that it was a mistake.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: It never should have been in there, and we don't have to do an election for that part of it at all. Like, I get what you're saying, that you're saying that North Carolina has to agree to accept this journal handbook, you know, that part makes sense. But as far as all of these corrections.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: They were all incorrectly done, because it was something that was miscomprehended by people who were doing the research, and then Anna made the correction, which is to be fixed in all journal assembly handbooks.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: that she published when she, you know, this is what she published. So, we… as we were editing it, we corrected it and put North Carolina, North Carolina, North Carolina, just also
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: to make it our own, just so everyone here knows what we did and why. So none of those things actually were ever supposed to originally have been in. So, I yield. I apologize for…
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: not making that plain for you when we sent it, because that's… I meant to do that, but I don't think I did a good job.
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Rebecca Roberts: We have, as our offices, including our local town-county sheriffs that are entrusted, obviously you know all that that's the highest law of the land, entrusted with enforcement of the public law. And then we have justices.
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Rebecca Roberts: And they're called Justices of the Peace.
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Rebecca Roberts: We have court clerks, recorders, bondsmen, deputies, public notaries, and coroners. And all of those offices are elected by members of the juroral assembly who are qualified jurors, making up the jury pool from which all trial and grand juries are drawn by lot.
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Rebecca Roberts: So that's a goal we had, and we were talking about this the last couple of weeks, of how do we do that? So we have to have a quorum in the jury pool. That would be the first thing.
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Rebecca Roberts: So the local county courts enforce these same laws as we have on the state, although they may have even some other particular things about their soil, water, or security issues, just based on
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Rebecca Roberts: So that's something to consider in the back of your mind. Obviously, not right away, but we've got to get things going here.
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Rebecca Roberts: So, Anas writes, once your jural assembly jury pools are filled.
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Rebecca Roberts: For our members only. So these are the people courts, and they deal only and exclusively with people business. So issues of private property, assets, marriages, probate, and estates.
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Rebecca Roberts: of people, rights of people, and so on. They can hear mixed jurisdictions as well, but that's a whole other thing we don't need to get into yet. So, what will the people courts deal exclusively and only with?
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Rebecca Roberts: So, on the clarity of religion versus law, our land and soil jurisdiction government is secular, not religious, per se, for a reason, because our founders were familiar with the evils of theocracy, and
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Rebecca Roberts: That way, such belief systems try to thwart the greater and more universal principle of free will. So they very…
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Rebecca Roberts: The Ten Commandments are the common ethical basis providing the heart of the common law. And this is an ethical matrix, so think of the Ten Commandments as
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Rebecca Roberts: So, these are common and acceptable to the adherents of all major world religions and most thinking people worldwide. So, I would just say that also Anna wrote about the only so-called religion, because if you look up the, criteria for religion.
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Rebecca Roberts: Unless they give that up.
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Rebecca Roberts: So, we are vastly helped in this by the logic, simplicity, and general familiarity of the common law. But in this process, juroral assemblies must honor the separation of church and state, so as a further and additional honor of the universal principle of free will and belief. And again.
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Rebecca Roberts: And… And the Ten Commandments should be a basic premise.
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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah, because everyone should be able to choose what they believe in. That's freedom of religion, it's one of our rights.
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Rebecca Roberts: So, in conclusion, we need to, number one, become members of the Jural Assembly by recording our 928 package in domicile on North Carolina.
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Rebecca Roberts: And then, in conclusion, we… Need to have at least 15 qualified jurors to begin elections to fill offices.
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Rebecca Roberts: We need to have someone who will accept those applications for, or wishes for those of the people who wish to become part of the Jural Assembly, so I'm gonna need some help. We're gonna need help.
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Rebecca Roberts: And then three, one of our goals here, and in conclusion, what we need to do is have, an update election, which is to accept the Jural Handbook as…
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Rebecca Roberts: So, and we do, we need every loyal and living American helping and assisting this process as we go forwards, because we have jurors, justices of the peace, court clerks, recorders, bondsmen, deputies, public notaries, and coroners. And we need to establish who we are and what we are doing.
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Rebecca Roberts: And actually, we're also recommended to do a mission statement for the General Assembly. For an example, I'll read to you the one that Wisconsin had for their mission statement, and it's just simple and straightforward, but just so people know what they're…
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Rebecca Roberts: getting involved in, and, so it would say something like, our North Carolina Journal Assembly is dedicated to…
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Rebecca Roberts: The restoration of a complete and fully operational land and soil jurisdiction, state and county court system serving the people of North Carolina. The preservation of the National Trust.
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Rebecca Roberts: The enforcement of public law, the upholding of the federal constitution owed to our state and people, and the repopulation of our land and soil jurisdiction.
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Rebecca Roberts: Also, the filling of vacated public offices and the reclamation of our material and intellectual public-private offices. There's a lot of work to do.
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Rebecca Roberts: So, the reclamation of our material and intellectual public-private athletes. We really need to get on this, because we're getting line grabs all over the place, especially up here.
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Rebecca Roberts: So, to these ends, we, the living people of North Carolina, have called the eligible North Carolina nationals and electors to assemble and to serve as jurors and officers.
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Rebecca Roberts: As we spoke about before, the jurors are the ones that are making the laws, hearing the cases, having… making decisions, so it's very much jury-led.
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Rebecca Roberts: And we… so people led. And we have established the process and procedure to qualify jurors and others competent to hold state citizenship and public office. We do this peacefully and without rancor in the exercise of our unincorporated powers and capacities. So that's a little example of a simple mission statement for a juroral assembly, and also kind of gets clear
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Rebecca Roberts: For all of us here today,
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Rebecca Roberts: what… yeah, okay, you did that already, it looks like Neithi says. So, how does that sound to people? Sounds like we did it already, so… well, great, let's take a look at it, and then, vote it as part of our, you know, of how we're gonna…
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Rebecca Roberts: Do things, so we can give that to everyone who applies for a To become a juror.
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Rebecca Roberts: So, now I yield and open the floor to anyone with comments or feedback to today's, educational…
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Rebecca Roberts: Part, and then… We can move on to other things that you might like to cover in future meetings.
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Rebecca Roberts: and have…
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Rebecca Roberts: Have more of us come to the meeting so we can actually… once we get, you know, a quorum, then we can start doing the work and…
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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah… I think… I think that would be exciting. We can start having action plans.
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Rebecca Roberts: Alright, I yield to anyone who wishes to speak.
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Rebecca Roberts: To us all on tonight's… Learning.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Thank you, Rebecca, it's awesome. I love it.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: we're learning a lot, it sounds wonderful. I don't want you to feel bad about talking a lot right now, because
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Anybody who's going to be watching these videos, every new somebody that joins, we're gonna encourage them to watch the recordings, and they'll be able to easily catch up and learn, so thank you for what you're doing. I yield.
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Rebecca Roberts: Thank you. And I'll send you that…
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I thought Laura sent it already, but, I will…
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: to send it to you, because we worked on a lot of those simple things that were overview for the drill assembly, not for all the bits and bots underneath, but just the big overview part, including the drill assembly seal.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And so, I'll, I'll share that with you. And I thought we had already elected it in, but I'm just giving it to you, and you just do whatever, and I'm not gonna say anything else about it.
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Rebecca Roberts: If it was… if it was voted on in the General Assembly, we, as a juror, would just need to take a look at it. You know, once we get a quorum, we can take a look at all the documents and
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Rebecca Roberts: that you passed, you know, elected, I should say, in the general, and then… yeah, I mean.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Well, we are now coming, so, like, we'll just leave it. I'll just send it all to you, what we did.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Sounds good. And that way you just have it, and, because there was already time invested, already some money invested in designing the seals and stuff like that, so I'll just leave that with you, and then,
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Rebecca Roberts: we needed to have a seal, and so on and so forth, so if you've done that already, awesome, then, that's done. Check that off the list.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Yeah, we still need to do our recording secretary stuff, but that's a different meeting, so I yield.
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Jeanne Scott: So, how are we gonna become jurors, or who and how are we gonna get more people to be jurors? How is that…
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Jeanne Scott: How do we do that?
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Jeanne Scott: I love your questions.
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Rebecca Roberts: You know, we need to be practical about this, and so it's a perfect question. Basically.
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Rebecca Roberts: Until we have a clerk, you can send your request, to me.
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Rebecca Roberts: assuming that you're qualified, and I'm assuming all of us here are, we've all done our 928s, and anyone listening to this who has not yet
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Rebecca Roberts: again, to our recorder, Nancy Gold… Nancy Goldstein at nancyrgoldstein at gmail.com.
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Rebecca Roberts: needs to do that if they want to be part of the North Carolina Assembly, because sadly, many of the records were destroyed.
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Rebecca Roberts: Not too long ago, and so, yeah, to participate, you do need to have the paperwork. So, I'm assuming everyone here
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Rebecca Roberts: Especially because this is the very beginning, you know, we're taking small steps toward building our jury pool quorum.
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Rebecca Roberts: So if we have 15 people who want to be jurors, just let me know, I'll put you on the jury pool list, and then…
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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah, and then we'll talk about how… how do we qualify ourselves? I mean, we have to…
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Rebecca Roberts: come up with what is qualifications? Do we agree? 21 years old, do we think you should be landowners, or is your body your land and that's enough? How long do you need to have been domiciled on the land and soil of North Carolina? .
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Jeanne Scott: Dude, am I smart enough? I don't know if I'm smart enough to do something like that. You know?
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Jeanne Scott: fan?
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Rebecca Roberts: No, Gene, actually, smart enough is not part of our criteria, that you are sovereign in your own right, and your right to be on a jury is a right. I…
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Rebecca Roberts: You know, we… we have rights. If they're incapacitated mentally, that's different. I'm not talking about that, where they have, you know, a caretaker, etc. That's a different story, but…
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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah, of course you're smart enough, Jean. You can speak, and you can decide, you can make decisions, of course, and you have the rights, so that's important.
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Rebecca Roberts: But are you even 21 years old, Jean? That's a question.
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Jeanne Scott: Well, I know. The way I act, you might…
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Rebecca Roberts: No, but okay. That's snarky, you know, you know, up, upper northeast.
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Jeanne Scott: That's where I am right now, in Massachusetts, so…
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Rebecca Roberts: Well, I… if you drove up there, you're probably 21. Oh, and speaking of which, so, okay, no, I flew.
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Jeanne Scott: Oh, okay. And I didn't have the right license, you know, the right ID.
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Jeanne Scott: But I had my 928, I had it all set, as per Needy, okay?
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Jeanne Scott: And they wouldn't even look at it.
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Jeanne Scott: They didn't even look at it. They just, told me that, next time I fly, I need to have that special license. And they let me go through. But I had to get padded down, also, because…
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Jeanne Scott: I did not have, the proper ID.
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Rebecca Roberts: I'm sorry, it's becoming more and more of a pain, because they know who we are, but whatever. It's an all-good sign, it's just annoying.
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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah, so… The requirements for being a juror are really…
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Rebecca Roberts: they really are basic, okay? But you do need to have your 928s, because you… you need to,
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Rebecca Roberts: Unless someone has otherwise, I'm always being corrected here. All right, yeah.
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Jeanne Scott: He and Derek have their hands up.
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Rebecca Roberts: I see that. Derek, go ahead.
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Derrick Sudler: I'll yield to Neeti, she had her hand up first.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Well, what I was gonna say is that it's everybody… anyone who does not have a conflict of interest on a case.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Would be qualified to serve for a jury?
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: For… because you're building a jury based on whatever the cases are.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: So, if there's a specific situation, anyone 21 or older can serve. And Gene, as far as intelligence goes, what you need to be able to do is hopefully recognize the truth from lies.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: That's what we are hoping, because that's actually… you're… you're actually making A decision about someone's life.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Because we don't have victimless crimes.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And none of our… like, this is not about…
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Our crimes are not, airy-fairy.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: They're not victimless.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And so, you know, I mean, whoever it is should just be interested in getting to the truth and, and being honest and in service, and really, that's the only thing.
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Jeanne Scott: Okay.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I just wanted to make that point clear. And congratulations on getting through with your 928s, because they couldn't hold you back, and they had to make up some crap to threaten you so that you didn't do it again. But I'm so proud of you for doing that.
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Jeanne Scott: They didn't even look at it, so…
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Because they know they can't do anything about it. They know what they're doing is wrong.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And the fact that you said anything that you said.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: That they… they were like, oh, she knows what… she knows what's going on!
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: She knows the truth, and they had to let you go, and you are so courageous, and I'm so proud of you for doing it.
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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah, good job.
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Rebecca Roberts: Okay, thank you.
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Rebecca Roberts: Sorry. Thank you, Anithi. Derek, go ahead.
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Derrick Sudler: Okay,
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Derrick Sudler: Yeah, to kind of piggyback on what Neeti was just saying, I think it's important to kind of…
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Derrick Sudler: Peel back all the layers of what we call educated, and be kind of, you know, kind of pulled from that sense that we have within.
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Derrick Sudler: That's ultimately what we're going to need to lean on, because the education that most of us have received is brainwashing.
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Derrick Sudler: To say the least.
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Derrick Sudler: But I wanted to ask the ques…
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Derrick Sudler: about… you said… I want to make sure if I heard you correctly, you said that it was…
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Derrick Sudler: Excuse me. That… The… in order to be a juror, to function.
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Derrick Sudler: That one had to adhere to or believe in
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Derrick Sudler: The Ten Commandments, was that right? Did I hear that correctly? Was that a prerequisite?
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Rebecca Roberts: That's, like, the basic, it's built upon…
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Rebecca Roberts: the moral understanding of what the Ten Commandments present, basically. So…
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Rebecca Roberts: You know, thou shalt not, you know, kill and steal and all of that is basic… the basis of…
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Rebecca Roberts: And then, also, there's, yeah, Brent Winner's book, which has all of the 10 tenets of…
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Rebecca Roberts: American common law. We can go over that too, but yeah, basically, Ana wrote in that article about the separation of church and state, and the Ten Commandments are the common ethical basis providing the heart of the common law.
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Rebecca Roberts: So it's an ethical matrix.
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Rebecca Roberts: That's common to all these major religions.
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Rebecca Roberts: Except for that one that I don't want to mention again.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: May I say something about that, Derek?
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Rebecca Roberts: Well, let Derek just finish, if you don't mind.
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Derrick Sudler: Yeah, I mean, I was gonna say that,
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Derrick Sudler: You know, there's a lot of… people born, on this land.
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Derrick Sudler: That probably may not adhere
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Derrick Sudler: Like, for instance, the first commandments, the first four commandments, is specifically funneling people into the belief of a specific God.
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Derrick Sudler: And we may lose the, a lot of, people that are born here on this soil who have the same morality.
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Derrick Sudler: Certainly, we certainly understand not killing and committing adultery, stealing, and a host of other things that aren't written, right?
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Derrick Sudler: Like rape, for instance, right? Things that are not there, that are inherent in law.
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Derrick Sudler: In natural law.
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Derrick Sudler: But I'm, you know, I'm… It…
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Derrick Sudler: So, I just wanted to make sure that I'm clear in understanding that
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Derrick Sudler: this, and I understand it's a framework, or a basis, or that we use it as…
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Derrick Sudler: a fundamental foundation. We… it's been infused in natural law, right? Natural law preceded it.
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Derrick Sudler: Right? But I just want to make sure I understand it, because I know there's a lot of people that is among us
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Derrick Sudler: That may not share those beliefs or adhere to the first four.
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Derrick Sudler: Because, again, the first commandment is, thou shalt not have another God, any other god before me.
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Derrick Sudler: What would that mean to someone who doesn't believe in the same God? Do we then exclude them if they were born here on this soil for generations and been here? Are they not able to function if they're moral people, and they are functioning, productive people in our, you know, in this land that we are standing on?
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Derrick Sudler: I want to make sure that we open our minds a bit.
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Derrick Sudler: And understand that we are men and women on the soil, beyond all of the constructs of
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Derrick Sudler: belief systems.
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Derrick Sudler: Because it will exclude many people.
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Derrick Sudler: And the other concern is that we don't shape another nation That has colonized the world.
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Derrick Sudler: Because if you use this framework, you're gonna funnel people into the same mindset, you're gonna funnel the same people.
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Derrick Sudler: The same types of people right back into this system that we're trying to reconstruct.
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Derrick Sudler: And create the same… you're not gonna solve a problem with the same mind that created it.
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Derrick Sudler: So the challenge I have is with the first four of the Ten Commandments, where it's funneling people to believe and adhere to this specific God.
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Derrick Sudler: that they may not adhere to. Doesn't mean they're not…
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Derrick Sudler: Moral people, doesn't mean they don't walk in honor, among those that they share.
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Derrick Sudler: The land and soil with.
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Derrick Sudler: I'm just asking that we take a look at that a little deeper, to open that lens a bit.
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Derrick Sudler: That's something we maybe need to revisit, because there's many people on the land here, the land and soil. And as I've stated, the Twelf Commandments was added and infused into natural law in 1250 AD.
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Derrick Sudler: So natural law and common law preceded it by far.
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Derrick Sudler: So it's not that it's the foundation of it, it was actually infused into it.
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Derrick Sudler: And so, again, we will… we would be missing a lot of people, from among us if that is the basis from which we stand. Is this something we need to look at? And again, I think that's a reason why there's been a separation for, you know, church and state. I think.
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Derrick Sudler: It's a broader lens that we need to begin to take a look at. So I, yeah, I just wanted to make sure I understood correctly. Is it a prerequisite to adhere, to lock into this belief system in order to function in the general assembly?
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Derrick Sudler: And I want to make sure that we make that clear, because you're gonna… you're gonna open the door for many more people, many more moral people, many more productive people.
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Derrick Sudler: That may not have the generational background that we have, or those that adhere specifically to the Ten Commandments.
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Derrick Sudler: Are you?
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Rebecca Roberts: This is a very excellent conversation.
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Rebecca Roberts: I'll just read the first four, because just…
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Rebecca Roberts: Some of us know them by heart, but…
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Rebecca Roberts: You… the first one is, you shall have no other gods before me.
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Rebecca Roberts: Two, you shall not make idols. Three, you shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain. And four, remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy. Those are the four that are contentious. The others are very much moral, you know, about stealing, coveting.
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Rebecca Roberts: Killing, adultery, etc, bearing false witness, those are obvious, but the first four, like, what if someone
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Rebecca Roberts: doesn't keep the Sabbath day holy. What does that even mean? So, no, you don't have to believe the Ten Commandments. From what I understood, what Anna said, and she's spoken about it again and again, is that it's a moral basis of natural law, or for common law. It's… it's a moral,
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Rebecca Roberts: You coming… you're coming… 2… a general assembly with, you know.
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Rebecca Roberts: goodness in your heart, really. I mean, that's… that's basically…
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Rebecca Roberts: what it's coming down to. But, I won't speak anymore on it. I think Jean was next. Jean, go ahead.
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Jeanne Scott: You're probably not gonna like this.
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Jeanne Scott: However, okay, if someone wants to have a cow as their god, no, I don't really think that they should be involved
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Jeanne Scott: in the assembly. That may not be right, but maybe… okay, so they're gonna have a cow as their god, right?
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Jeanne Scott: And… But maybe they're moral?
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Jeanne Scott: Does that… I don't know.
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Jeanne Scott: To me, I do think that they… there has to be some… restrictions… In a sense.
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Jeanne Scott: Because how is someone who has those beliefs going to believe in America.
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Jeanne Scott: And how we're gonna run… how things should be run.
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Jeanne Scott: in a moral aspect. I'm just asking.
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Rebecca Roberts: Well, it's a great question, and I'll let Neithi speak in just a sec, but I happen to know a little bit about what you're talking about, with my childhood growing where I grew up, in Africa, and…
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Rebecca Roberts: Yes, a cow is holy, for example, but there is a Creator God.
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Rebecca Roberts: And then…
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Jeanne Scott: Okay.
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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah, so if there is a Creator God, then…
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