Can the State Crush Bitcoin? And the Next Big Financial Crisis with Dave Collum

In this episode of Coin Stories, Natalie Brunell is joined by Cornell organic chemistry professor Dave Collum, a self-described Bitcoin agnostic, to debate markets, inflation, and state power. Topics discussed:

- The “complacency” bubble within the economy
- The Fed’s playbook and next big crash: can they always print their way out?
- BRICS nations building an alternative system
- Gold vs. Bitcoin
- Why Dave believes "the state" won't allow Bitcoin to thrive
- What a real reset could look like

Dave's interview with Tucker Carlson https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1958212435665617380

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*IN THIS COIN STORIES EPISODE*
00:00 Is Dave Collum Really a Bitcoiner
2:20 Meet Dave Collum of Cornell University
7:07 Gemini Orange Bitcoin Credit Card
7:36 Bitwise
8:05 Ledn Bitcoin-backed loans
8:24 Collum’s Take on the Economy
14:28 What Could Break the U.S. Economy
16:33 The Truth About Inflation Expectations
19:54 Is America’s Economy Stage Four Cancer
27:38 Bitcoin Stablecoins and the Future of Money
36:19 Bitkey, The Bitcoin Way, Speed.app
37:20 Can the Government Crush Bitcoin
40:06 Will Dave Collum Ever Buy Bitcoin
47:32 Will BRICS Nations Turn to Bitcoin
55:52 Bitcoin Value and the Silent Depression
1:05:43 The Inflation Monster Is Awake
1:07:12 Global Economic Collapse Coming
1:17:23 What Still Gives Dave Collum Hope

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Producer: Aron Bender https://www.linkedin.com/in/aron-bender/
Editor: Silas Foley

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