💔 Yesterday: Charlie Kirk was Mark Halperin's guest on the Next Up podcast

Next Up with Mark Halperin | Charlie Kirk on Crime, the Horrific Charlotte Stabbing, and the Wrong Lesson About Trump Scandals
Premiered Sep 9, 2025
In today’s episode, Mark Halperin delivers a patented reported monologue on the political resilience and rare political athleticism that allowed Bill Clinton and Donald Trump to survive scandals that would have ended most careers.
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From Gennifer Flowers to “Access Hollywood,” Mark explains why their Houdini-like abilities was not evidence that controversy no longer matters, but proof that only a handful of figures can endure the relentless gauntlet of modern presidential politics.
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For 2028 hopefuls, the real test isn’t just ideas or charisma, but durability under fire—and those who assume they can weather a scandal simply because Clinton and Trump did so are making a critical mistake.

Then, Charlie Kirk joins for an important discussion about the American crime crisis and why the issue is sharply dividing the country, including the horrific stabbing of a woman in Charlotte, North Carolina.
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Kirk also fires back at Van Jones’ comments that he should be “ashamed of himself.” He and Mark unpack sharp generational and gender divides over the economy, young voters’ skepticism about wealth and politics, and the clash between men and women over marriage and family.
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Plus, Kirk shares the surprising reason he wants to attend a Mamdani rally in New York.
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