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17th September, 2025 - Jural Assembly Meeting
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Rebecca Roberts: There we go. Good evening, everyone. It is the 17th of September. This is the Jural Assembly Meeting.
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Rebecca Roberts: I yield to Derek.
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Derrick Sudler: Thank you, Rebecca.
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Derrick Sudler: Good evening, everyone. I'll be making the business decision.
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Derrick Sudler: This meeting is private. Bearing false witness, misrepresentation, and post-inflammatory rhetoric in public forums is forbidden.
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Derrick Sudler: And shall be addressed in the appropriate manner. To eliminate all conflict and false allegations, is there anyone in attendance at today's meeting that is a member or agent of any law enforcement agency or public agencies of the federal, state, county, city.
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Derrick Sudler: Or township agencies present.
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Derrick Sudler: Is there a response to the Bivens decision for the first time?
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Derrick Sudler: This meeting is private. Bearing false witness, misrepresentation, and posting inflammatory rhetoric in public forums is forbidden.
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Derrick Sudler: And shall be addressed in the appropriate manner.
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Derrick Sudler: To eliminate all conflict and false allegations, is there anyone in attendance at today's meeting that is a member or agent of any law enforcement agency or public agencies of the federal, state, county, city.
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Derrick Sudler: Township agencies present.
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Derrick Sudler: Is their response to the business decision for the second time?
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Derrick Sudler: This meeting is private.
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Derrick Sudler: Bearing false witness, misrepresentation, and posting inflammatory rhetoric in public forums is forbidden.
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Derrick Sudler: And shall be addressed in the appropriate manner. To eliminating all conflict and false allegations, is there anyone in attendance at today's meeting?
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Derrick Sudler: That is a member or agent of any law enforcement agency or public agencies of the federal, state, county, city, or township agencies present.
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Derrick Sudler: Is their response to the business decision for the third time.
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Derrick Sudler: Anyone who is here under false pretenses.
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Derrick Sudler: Anyone who is working for any foreign government, including the territorial United States or municipal United States, anyone who is being paid or coerced to be here.
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Derrick Sudler: Must fully disclose their presence and purpose now, or leave the conference call.
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Derrick Sudler: If they subsequently show up as federal witnesses, they are discredited for failure to disclose.
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Derrick Sudler: Are you now, or have you ever received money or support of any kind from the intelligence community?
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Derrick Sudler: Upon no response to this notice of Bivens decision, this meeting shall proceed.
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Derrick Sudler: I yield to Rebecca.
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Rebecca Roberts: Thank you, Derek. Much appreciated.
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Rebecca Roberts: Today, we're going to learn about standing on our square.
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Rebecca Roberts: And discuss it, if you wish, and also…
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Rebecca Roberts: within that is how to get a judge to understand you.
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Rebecca Roberts: And we all know what the word understand means, so this is a good one.
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Rebecca Roberts: This is all from Ana.
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Rebecca Roberts: So, let's begin with… the solution.
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Rebecca Roberts: Now, the solution to all problems that we're having right now
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Rebecca Roberts: Is to declare your political status, And number two.
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Rebecca Roberts: To rescind all signatures as surety from all government contracts.
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Rebecca Roberts: And we're all in the process of doing that with our affidavits, thanks to Nithy and her teachings on the international business, which you're welcome to go back and look at. There were 3 of those lessons that I think that we had it all cleared up, and we had some good discussion. So…
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Rebecca Roberts: There's some other things you can do, but we're gonna just take the basics, so…
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Rebecca Roberts: I would like to begin with, first a moment A moment… a minute.
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Rebecca Roberts: To honor our Creator, The source of all?
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Rebecca Roberts: Law?
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Rebecca Roberts: Nature. Us.
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Rebecca Roberts: Creation, and everything.
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Rebecca Roberts: Because we're going to begin with something from the Creator that was given to us as a gift. So, let's take a moment to bring in…
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Rebecca Roberts: that… place in our hearts where we can honor the Creator.
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Rebecca Roberts: And so be it. Thank you.
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Rebecca Roberts: The Creator told us the words, I am.
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Rebecca Roberts: And these are two very powerful words.
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Rebecca Roberts: That we must embody.
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Rebecca Roberts: To be sovereign, to be the children of the Creator.
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Rebecca Roberts: We must understand and comprehend those two words.
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Rebecca Roberts: If those two words are said in a court of law, for any law, The judge must stand down.
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Rebecca Roberts: Three times.
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Rebecca Roberts: I am.
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Rebecca Roberts: I am.
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Rebecca Roberts: I am.
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Rebecca Roberts: Now, why is that? That's a little bit of a mystery to begin with, isn't it?
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Rebecca Roberts: Well, because nothing stands between you Or I.
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Rebecca Roberts: And the living God.
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Rebecca Roberts: Nothing.
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Rebecca Roberts: But, because of adhesion contracts, because of fraud, because of crimes, Many…
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Rebecca Roberts: Barry Tree Personage, you know the list?
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Rebecca Roberts: We have put something between our being, And God!
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Rebecca Roberts: When you really think about that, that's actually…
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Rebecca Roberts: That's not really a smart thing to do, but obviously we were just babies when it happened to us, so we can't really blame ourselves.
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Rebecca Roberts: But now we know… That we,
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Rebecca Roberts: have put something between ourselves and the living God, we must take that thing away. And that thing right now is the government and the law.
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Rebecca Roberts: Their law. It's not ours.
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Rebecca Roberts: And so, what do we do to do that? We must remember who we are, first of all.
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Rebecca Roberts: So when we remember that we are the children of the living God.
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Rebecca Roberts: Then we can move forward as sovereign, and stand in the power.
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Rebecca Roberts: Of the living God, which is within every one of us, the I AM, within everyone who has life and breathes and has blood.
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Rebecca Roberts: So… If you find yourself Summoned… We all know that summoning It's not something that we… Acknowledge… understand…
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Rebecca Roberts: Adhere to, agree to, consent to, no, we don't.
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Rebecca Roberts: We cannot be summoned.
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Rebecca Roberts: And we don't… I don't believe in Ouija boards or summoning spirits either, so… I… think they're insane, right? They are. They're insane. They think they can summon a living being.
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Rebecca Roberts: Is there a satanic cult?
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Rebecca Roberts: I think they can summon, but they can't.
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Rebecca Roberts: Because we've claimed our status, we've already cured
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Rebecca Roberts: the record by establishing our declaration of political status and recording that, and then we've rescinded all signatures as surety from government contracts. So we've removed them from standing between… from them standing between us and the living God.
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Rebecca Roberts: So if you do get a summons, well.
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Rebecca Roberts: Well, first of all, do everything you can to not have to go to court, do it all in writing, and explain… not explain… state who you are.
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Rebecca Roberts: And that this court has no jurisdiction over you. And there's many things that we can do, and we can get into the details, but if this is for… if you have to stand on your square.
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Rebecca Roberts: Today. So, if you have to go into a court, you must go in
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Rebecca Roberts: And you must know that you are challenging One thing… The jurisdiction.
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Rebecca Roberts: That's all you have to worry about. Why? Because you know who you are.
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Rebecca Roberts: So, they're gonna try to trick you, because they know, they see your paperwork, they know who you are, and they wanna trick you…
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Rebecca Roberts: To say that you are your name, first of all.
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Rebecca Roberts: Which you are not.
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Rebecca Roberts: But if you must answer, your answer will be…
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Rebecca Roberts: John Michael is my given name. McShay is my family name.
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Rebecca Roberts: Okay?
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Rebecca Roberts: So you must answer properly.
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Rebecca Roberts: So, you're gonna begin by taking control of the situation, establishing your position by telling them who you are, and also who you aren't, if you wish to. And so that's number one.
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Rebecca Roberts: Control the situation, number one.
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Rebecca Roberts: Tell them who you are. If you want to take notes, it's a good idea. And then number two, you have to say what your business is with the court.
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Rebecca Roberts: You have to give them their task to do for you, and authorize them to do it.
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Rebecca Roberts: According to your instructions. So there's 4 things you have to do.
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Rebecca Roberts: We don't even really… we're so clueless. I know I am. When I began this, like, if I have to go to court, I'll be nervous, and da-da-da, right? But you just have to go in there and gird yourself, remember who you are.
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Rebecca Roberts: And that you're sovereign. And that you… there's nothing that stands between you and the living God.
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Rebecca Roberts: Okay, so, they've tried to trick you by asking you what your name is, and you've told them your proper name, which is…
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Rebecca Roberts: John Michael is my given name, McShay is my family name. Then the prosecutor, or the prosecuting attorney, because in a criminal case, you'll have a prosecutor. In a civil case, you'll have a prosecuting attorney. They're literally just the same team. They're… it's all the same, it's just a different name.
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Rebecca Roberts: They'll… they'll talk and talk and talk about what the problem is, da-da-da-da-da.
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Rebecca Roberts: what they presume. So you're going to challenge their jurisdiction.
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Rebecca Roberts: And any presumptions that they're making, okay?
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Rebecca Roberts: You say… And you need to write this down.
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Rebecca Roberts: The prosecutor, or prosecuting attorney, okay, the prosecutor has failed
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Rebecca Roberts: To state a claim upon which relief can be granted.
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Rebecca Roberts: I'll say that once more. The prosecutor has failed to state a claim upon which relief can be granted. Why? Because you know who you are. Doesn't matter what they say. This is what you say.
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Rebecca Roberts: And then you say, I am a woman, man, yeah?
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Rebecca Roberts: In the common sense of the word, and I'm speaking to you as a woman, is what I would say, or a man, yeah?
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Rebecca Roberts: Then you must say.
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Rebecca Roberts: I am an American requiring pass-through service, so what are you doing there? Remember I said, how do you get into this? Who you are, your business with the court? Here we are at number 2.
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Rebecca Roberts: I am an American requiring pass-through service. Now, you can also say.
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Rebecca Roberts: I'm here on special appearance. You can also say, I'm visiting. Like Anna said, she is a visitor to their jurisdiction.
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Rebecca Roberts: You need to be clear about who you are, and make it obvious to the court what your business is.
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Rebecca Roberts: Then you say.
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Rebecca Roberts: This removes any substance of the case out of their jurisdiction of the municipal court. This is what you have to do, you have to remove it by saying who you are in a different capacity. You say, I am a claimant.
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Rebecca Roberts: Not a complainant. Sounds the same, doesn't it, almost? Like, just a few letters there, different. Nope, I am a claimant.
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Rebecca Roberts: So now we know who you are, what you're doing there, and why you're there.
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Rebecca Roberts: And then you say, I am claiming my property and my credit both here and now.
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Rebecca Roberts: Alright.
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Rebecca Roberts: And then…
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Rebecca Roberts: you have to talk about what your property, is. Like, you're claiming all the credit generated by your signature, okay?
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Rebecca Roberts: So, when it comes to do with a mortgage, whatever, that's a little… it's a lot of money, whatever, and you… and then you… we would have some other things that you might say, but we're just gonna do the basics, standing on your square.
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Rebecca Roberts: So you only need to… This is a…
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Rebecca Roberts: like, an insert right here. I'm not doing the lesson, just telling you.
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Rebecca Roberts: You only stand on a square.
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Rebecca Roberts: Because you have a square under your feet that is always there for you, and that is your square. It is your sovereign body from God.
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Rebecca Roberts: You are on a square the size of 2 feet and 2 feet.
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Rebecca Roberts: That is your square, you're standing on it because you are on the land and soil. You do not need to be on… you do not need to claim that square when you are on the land and soil, the great glory of God, the whole earth, okay? You only need to stand on your square.
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Rebecca Roberts: When you're interfacing with their jurisdiction, like, i.e, in their court.
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Rebecca Roberts: Because they are water, and you are standing on land, so you have to bring your square in with you.
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Rebecca Roberts: That is saying who you are.
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Rebecca Roberts: That is, telling them why you're there.
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Rebecca Roberts: That is saying, also more about the case at hand, and that
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Rebecca Roberts: you are passing through, and there is no controversy, I am a claimant.
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Rebecca Roberts: Okay? You're taking it out of their court, And now you're saying.
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Rebecca Roberts: After you say, I've claimed my property and credit.
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Rebecca Roberts: That is generated by your signatures.
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Rebecca Roberts: And that you want to settle all liens.
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Rebecca Roberts: Then they're gonna ask you, after some back and forth and more mumbo-jumbo, you stick to your guns.
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Rebecca Roberts: And you say, again, you repeat. You can repeat all of what we just said.
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Rebecca Roberts: Multiple times. And you can also say, Does the record reflect
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Rebecca Roberts: I am this, this, and that, that I live this, there, and this, that I…
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Rebecca Roberts: challenge the jurisdiction of this court, the prosecution has failed to state a claim upon which relief can be granted, etc. Now, the next trick they're going to ask you, besides your name, is…
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Rebecca Roberts: Okay, well, fine, fine, Mr… they'll try to say Mr. McShay.
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Rebecca Roberts: And you'll… you'll maybe say, my given name is John Michael, or Jane Michael, whatever, and McShay is my family name. They'll… and please, you know, request to… or not request…
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Rebecca Roberts: ask if it's on the record, because when you're asking, you're always as sovereign as king, okay? So always ask questions. So then…
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Rebecca Roberts: They ask for your mailing address, and you say.
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Rebecca Roberts: you may mail anything to in care of, and then a mailbox or an address. In care of, always say that.
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Rebecca Roberts: Okay?
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Rebecca Roberts: And then, you, now, you see, you are making the judge and the clerk responsible for… everything.
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Rebecca Roberts: You're… because… You've just said to them that you're not in their jurisdiction?
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Rebecca Roberts: They have no jurisdiction over you?
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Rebecca Roberts: And they can't trick you by sending you any documents that are trying to get, again, get you to fall for their tricks.
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Rebecca Roberts: This is the basics. There's a lot more to this, but this is just what kind of… it helps you to comprehend what they're trying to do to us all the time.
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Rebecca Roberts: I don't know if there's a dial-in number for the meeting, sorry.
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Rebecca Roberts: I don't think there is.
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Rebecca Roberts: Bye.
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Rebecca Roberts: Okay, so then a couple other things here…
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Rebecca Roberts: Since you've taken control of the situation, You have established your position.
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Rebecca Roberts: You've told them who you are, and what your business in that court is, and you've told them what they can do.
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Rebecca Roberts: To dissolve all liens, or whatever it is, then…
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Rebecca Roberts: Now, you've told them what to do, and you authorize them.
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Rebecca Roberts: To do it according to your instructions.
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Rebecca Roberts: And this works for civil as well as criminal cases. The only difference, like I said before, is you have a prosecutor or a prosecuting attorney.
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Rebecca Roberts: And in which case.
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Rebecca Roberts: You would say, you know, the other case, which is the prosecution has failed to state a claim upon which relief can be granted.
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Rebecca Roberts: Alright?
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Rebecca Roberts: So… The most important thing is I am.
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Rebecca Roberts: Who are you? I am.
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Rebecca Roberts: I am.
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Rebecca Roberts: Okay?
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Rebecca Roberts: What is your name? You have a given name and you have a family name. Nothing else applies to you.
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Rebecca Roberts: Who are they?
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Rebecca Roberts: They're your employees, and you need to give them a task to do, and you need to walk in there.
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Rebecca Roberts: Knowing you have jurisdiction over their court, concurrent, superior, and general jurisdiction.
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Rebecca Roberts: And you will command that court. And that judge will get up and walk out.
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Rebecca Roberts: And try to come back in. Soon as that judge walks out, leave. Case over. Dismissed. He's gonna try to come back in and say, are you this man? Are you this woman? What is your address again? He's gonna start all over and try to establish jurisdiction again. Nope.
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Rebecca Roberts: If a judge walks out on you, you are the judge. You may put on the record.
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Rebecca Roberts: This ju- this case is dismissed?
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Rebecca Roberts: And walk out. You're done.
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Rebecca Roberts: It's really great. I mean, this is all Anna's stuff, guys. This is a year ago, she did in, June, How to Make a Judge Understand You, if you want to look it up.
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Rebecca Roberts: So, with that…
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Rebecca Roberts: some answers, and Mike has a lot of answers here, he watches all the good YouTube videos, all those people out there doing this, and others here. Neathi knows a lot, Lavelle's just been through it, so has, her mom, and…
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Rebecca Roberts: you know, we can win, you know? They're clueless. They're clueless when it comes to knowing how to deal with us. And we don't need to be clueless. We need to be… just like this. It's just a quick lesson, you know? Just have… but then we have to get familiar with it, and comfortable with it, and…
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Rebecca Roberts: And don't, you know, don't do what they say, never do what they say, never answer their question if you can help it.
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Rebecca Roberts: Because then you're consenting to their jurisdiction, even if the judge says, hello, how are you?
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Rebecca Roberts: Let the record reflect that I am feeling very well today. You don't answer the judge?
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Rebecca Roberts: You make commands, and you make questions, that's it.
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Rebecca Roberts: So, with that, I'm going to give over host to whoever here would like to be host, so you guys can go ahead and chat.
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Rebecca Roberts: about…
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Rebecca Roberts: Or if I can answer any quick questions before I have to run. I have 5 minutes. Does anybody have a question about this that anyone here can answer?
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Do you have the article that you could share? Just real quick, also, please?
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Rebecca Roberts: See, I've not got a number on it, but it's.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Just the name of it is fine.
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Rebecca Roberts: How to Make a Judge Understand You is the name of the… article.
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Rebecca Roberts: How to make a judge understand you.
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Rebecca Roberts: He will stand under you. Rohit, please, go ahead, I yield.
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Rohit Bali On North Carolina: Hi, Rebecca, thank you. I wanted to ask a quick question.
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Rohit Bali On North Carolina: I was told earlier that you shouldn't even cross the bar or the line. Is that true, or are you supposed to… where are you supposed to be situated in the court, I guess, is my question.
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Rebecca Roberts: That is true, that… that can work. You can conduct court from your side of the bar, I mean, of the…
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Rebecca Roberts: the vessel, you're on the land, they're on the… they're on the sea. You can definitely do that, that's totally doable. But if you want to appear in special appearance, that's… you need to state that, and I know Mike has good stuff to say about it, so…
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Rebecca Roberts: Who would like to facilitate, and then I'm gonna hand over to Mike. Let's see…
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Rebecca Roberts: Neithi, would you like to, or Mike, would you like to, facilitate?
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I can if nobody else is doing it, but if somebody else wants to do it, knock stuff out.
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Rebecca Roberts: Go ahead, Mike.
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Rebecca Roberts: Answer… do you want to answer that?
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Mike Maasbach©: Can you admit your comment?
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Mike Maasbach©: Yeah, well, yeah, first off, the challenging jurisdiction is like playing a chess game, so you just have to rebut everything you say.
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Mike Maasbach©: You're here on special appearance, or yada yada yada. I mean, you're here on, your summons here for yada yada yada, no, I'm here on special appearance. What Rohit, Rohit said that, about the bar, well.
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Mike Maasbach©: That court is like a ship.
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Mike Maasbach©: On the water, and if you pass that bar, it's kind of like walking the plank.
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Mike Maasbach©: So once you… once you go past that, that's… you gave them jurisdiction. You're walking the plank, you fell in the water, now somebody has to bail you out.
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Mike Maasbach©: Got it? And the words are literal, I mean, but their words, it's… when they throw some words at you, you have to challenge it with land jurisdiction words.
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Mike Maasbach©: So, again, the only thing that gets summoned is ghosts, demons, and spirits, and dead entities, and we're living flesh and blood, men and women, and, yeah, you just have to, rebut everything that they say and stand in your square.
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Mike Maasbach©: And, you're right, Rebecca, even though if you have to repeat yourself constantly, and ask the questions. So, it's kind of like,
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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah, yeah.
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Mike Maasbach©: Know what you're doing, and don't paint yourself into a corner. I yield.
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Rebecca Roberts: So, Michael, what happens if you… can you…
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Rohit Bali On North Carolina: Sorry, I just had a quick follow-up.
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Rohit Bali On North Carolina: Can you take your, plot of soil, I guess, and cross the bar, then?
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Mike Maasbach©: No, you never want to cross the bar.
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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah, you can stand on your square, yeah.
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Mike Maasbach©: You can.
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Mike Maasbach©: I might be wrong on that.
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Mike Maasbach©: That's why we're here learning.
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Rebecca Roberts: You can!
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Rebecca Roberts: across the bar, you have to know who you are, and stand on your square. So, trying to do…
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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah, it's better if you're not sure to stand on the other side of the little fence in the court, definitely. You can't if you do go in.
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Emilio Brown: Hmm.
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Rebecca Roberts: You have to be making the announcement that you are on special appearance, and you cannot be…
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Rebecca Roberts: contracting with them in there. It's a… it's a pit of vipers, you know? I just want… before I run, I wanted to tell you Shuttlesworth versus Birmingham, Alabama. This is, for the recent altercation with the DMV, and any other
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Rebecca Roberts: Policy officers that you might see, with their fancy outfits, costumes on with flashing lights.
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Rebecca Roberts: That this is in quotation. If the state does convert your right
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Rebecca Roberts: To travel, into a privilege, and issue a license and a fee for it, you can ignore the license and fee and engage the right with impunity.
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Rebecca Roberts: Shuttleworth vs. Birmingham.
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Rebecca Roberts: There's a lot on that case that's really good.
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Rebecca Roberts: And you can do some fun stuff with learning your case law and having a little list in front of you to
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Rebecca Roberts: inform… The ridiculous judge in their silly costumes, what the law is.
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Rebecca Roberts: It's on your side.
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Rebecca Roberts: Because we have a lot on our side, we just have to know what it is.
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Rebecca Roberts: With that, I'm handing over to Neeti to facilitate. You can see all the hands and stuff, Neeti, so…
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Rebecca Roberts: If there are any… yeah, Neeti has her hand up, so… hand it over to you. Thank you so much, everyone. I'll see you in the recording, and I'll see you next week, and please let Neithi know if you want to be a juror, because we've got our paperwork ready to go, if you want to…
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Rebecca Roberts: Volunteer. Thank you so much, good night all, I'm sorry I have to run.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Did you… did you share, host?
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Rebecca Roberts: Cheryl, I don't know how to leave… okay, here I go.
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Rebecca Roberts: Yeah, your host now.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Okay. I just want to make sure, because otherwise it would just end everything.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Okay.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: So, the only thing I wanted to add to what Rebecca was… was saying is that, you know, you're asking about crossing the bar. They're… they're very proficient in the… the word spells and incantations.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And so, if you're going to cross the bar, And use any words.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Other than questions. Because your only thing that you should say in the… you know, what a hearing is for is for them, for the judge to basically consider what it is that you've put in writing. If they have any questions about the case.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: We always want to operate in a court of record.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And so, the question should be, what is the record?
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And the record is… if you're operating from a core of record, the core of record is superior.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: to a criminal court or a civil court is superior to all the courts. So, the court of record is superior to them all.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And they would like for you to believe that the docket is the record, but that is not the record.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: The docket has the records, But it doesn't… but it is not the record.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And so… When, you know, everything that we want to say
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: We want to present it in that testimony in the form of an affidavit, and we want to speak from a position of being a sovereign.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: A lot of common law
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: guys will teach, you know, under UCC, they will teach you to, counterclaim and make yourself
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: The plaintiff
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: But we are even… we come all the way out of it. We come all the way off the ship.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Because we're not operating on the citizenship, right? We are outside of that. We're on the land and soil.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: So let's, first of all, just know that we are not on the ship, we're not part of the citizenship, we're not part of the maritime or the admiralty.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: We are outside of that. We are the sovereigns on the land and soil, and we are also the living men.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: These people are in a probate court of… it's where it's the court of the dead.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: The only way to communicate is in writing. So, there's no words that you're going to say that are going to really mean anything. Everything needs to go on the record. So, when you're standing there, and whatever they say.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Everything that the judge tries to judge You're just going to object.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And then the judge is gonna say, well, why do you object? Or to what do you object? And you just say, because it is not my wish.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And then the judge is gonna say.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: that isn't good enough, or, you know, whatever, and then he'll overrule it. And then you're gonna say, Well…
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I still want it on the record that I object.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And you can ask, did… is it on the record that I did object?
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And then you just move on. Because then, at the end.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: the judge is gonna say whatever the judge wants to say. You're gonna come back, And you're going to…
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: go home and, like, put everything in writing, and you're going to rebut point by point. You don't actually rebut in court.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: You never rebut in court with words.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: You only object to all the points, you make notes of what their, you know, what it is that you must
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: you know, write a rebuttal for. So, if there's 5 things that you objected to, those are 5 things that you want to rebut, and you will do that in an affidavit. You will do it in a testimony in the form of an affidavit that you're gonna turn in later, but you will never actually use words in the court.
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Emilio Brown: paper towel, and I do that.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: There's a hot mic. Amelia, you have a hot mic.
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Emilio Brown: Sorry.
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Emilio Brown: Hopefully you know I'm willing.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: It's okay, can you mute, please?
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Emilio Brown: Yep.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Thank you. Does anybody have any questions or any comments?
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loria gathings: need… Would you say that… would you say that last part, say you never rebut in court with words?
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: You never…
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loria gathings: Making a point.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Okay, so whenever they're saying… whenever the judge is… if the judge is trying to make judgment, because the judge can't make judgment, the judge in all of these courts is a magistrate, okay? And they have no authority over us.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: So, whatever they're trying to do, you're going to object to it.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Whenever they say whatever they say, you're gonna object, you're gonna make a note.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And you're going to object. And then, you're gonna go home with your list of things that you objected to, and then you have to actually, you know, write those things out, and then you would…
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: put those items on the record. And the way that you do that is you send it through the clerk of court.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: You know, you go and you write your testimony in the form of an affidavit, and you, deliver this.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: to the clerk of court.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And you want to do this as soon as possible, right? So, like, if you can get it in there within 72 hours.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: You want to add that information to the record, because what is information?
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Evidence of a crime, you guys.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: It's evidence of the crime, right?
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And you want all the evidence on the record.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And remember, the core of record is superior.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: So, if they're gonna now try to do another hearing.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Like, maybe the judge is gonna have another hearing because he wants to, you know, still continue this. He's either gonna continue it, or if he tries to make a judgment.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: you're, you know, we're gonna counter the judgment, whatever it was. So it depends on what they say.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: But, again, we're trying never to go in there.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And the best way to avoid all of this nonsense is…
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: You give them a testimony in the form of an affidavit stating all the things. If they don't rebut your affidavit within 7 days, then you follow back up with judgment.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: In writing, on the record.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Oh, hey, Derek, I see your hand. Sorry, I missed it.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I, I yield, I yield.
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Derrick Sudler: Thank you, yeah, I kinda… you, you kinda…
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Derrick Sudler: touched on what I was gonna say.
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Derrick Sudler: You know, you certainly want to immediately,
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Derrick Sudler: Submit your testimony in the form of an affidavit.
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Derrick Sudler: And you give them time to rebut that?
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Derrick Sudler: And if it's not rebutted, then you establish an estoppel.
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Derrick Sudler: If you ever have to enter into, the courtroom.
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Derrick Sudler: You want to just speak from… your affidavit.
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Derrick Sudler: You don't want to fly off the cuff, you don't want to…
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Derrick Sudler: You know, try to create anything, because, you know, most people have butterflies, in dealing with that type of scenario.
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Derrick Sudler: You could stop an estapo if…
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Derrick Sudler: You submit the testimony of an affidavit, and they don't rebut it. A non-rebutted affidavit becomes law.
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Derrick Sudler: So they have a small window whereby, to rebut that.
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Derrick Sudler: So everything definitely wants to be done in paperwork.
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Derrick Sudler: You want the paperwork to precede your presence?
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Derrick Sudler: So whenever there is an issue, you know, a charge, a summons, whatever the case may be.
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Derrick Sudler: As Neithi stated, you want to go down, to the clerk of court.
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Derrick Sudler: You want to establish that on the record.
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Derrick Sudler: Through the clerk of court.
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Derrick Sudler: And if you have to appear.
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Derrick Sudler: Because again, now we want to be mindful that these people do not… Operate in honor, right?
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Derrick Sudler: So if there's a warrant, they're gonna come and get you, right? And it's gonna create a scenario for you and the family, so forth and so on.
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Derrick Sudler: So you may have to present yourself. Certainly, special appearance is the only way to present ourselves.
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Derrick Sudler: That alone challenges jurisdiction.
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Derrick Sudler: the George Dixon challenge is a bit…
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Derrick Sudler: challenging because they're gonna go off of personal contact. Personal contact is using the corporatocracy to survive, right? If you've got an electric company that you pay a bill to.
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Derrick Sudler: That's a, you know, a point of contact that they're gonna establish personal jurisdiction on.
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Derrick Sudler: So that normally doesn't fly very well.
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Derrick Sudler: But it's your presence, special appearance.
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Derrick Sudler: That establishes your presence, and not general.
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Derrick Sudler: special appearance. It tells them automatically that…
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Derrick Sudler: You're not operating based on, the laws of that court, that you have a set of laws that they must adhere to.
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Derrick Sudler: Also may want to consider, once you submit, if you ever have to submit an affidavit, you know,
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Derrick Sudler: you know… Some documents from the 928, not everything, right?
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Derrick Sudler: But you want to show that you've expatriated.
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Derrick Sudler: That lets them know that you're not a citizen.
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Derrick Sudler: So that you're not, subject to these rules, and these ordinances, these codes.
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Derrick Sudler: That this tribunal is working under.
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Derrick Sudler: You'll be establishing yourself in a constitutional standing.
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Derrick Sudler: Which is far different from where they are. So, I want to wrap it up by saying that the paperwork needs to precede everything when it comes to court.
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Derrick Sudler: If you ever have to step in court, you don't want to shoot from the cuff.
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Derrick Sudler: You want to speak from your paperwork.
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Derrick Sudler: You want to echo what's recorded.
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Derrick Sudler: And that's it.
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Derrick Sudler: Are you?
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Thank you, Derek. I would say…
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: don't even speak off the paperwork, Derek. I would say that all you have to do is tell the judge
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: every… you know, when the judge says whatever, just say, everything that I want to say is on the record.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Because they're gonna try to trick you, And they're professional.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: As far as these spells and incantations go?
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And we're not.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Because we don't do dead speak, okay?
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And we're not as, as, proficient as Anna or someone else.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: So, speaking off the cuff, I don't know. It's my encouragement. When they ask a question, or they say any… they say, well, you know, what do you want to say about this? When you say you object, or anything else, you could just say, everything that I want to say is on that, in my paperwork, it's on the record.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And then they have to read it, because they're avoiding trying to read it.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: They don't want to look at that paperwork.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: They already know what it says, and that they have no case.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Okay, Dan and then Derek, I yield the floor.
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Dan Diescher: Thank you for everybody's patience. I shouldn't be not rubber banding, am I clear enough?
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Mike Maasbach©: Yes, we can hear you, Dan.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: I can hear you.
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Dan Diescher: there's…
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Dan Diescher: so much, though, while I was listening tonight that I would love to share through literature and otherwise,
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Dan Diescher: There's a lot to it. Most county, and especially small villages, and by population, those are called Nisi Prius Courts, by definition. They are not a court of record.
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Dan Diescher: So this is what triangulates. It goes right back to the fact of you knowing this, you have to stand on your square, and you have to challenge jurisdiction immediately. There's never… nothing is about if you're right or wrong, because you know that you're not wrong.
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Dan Diescher: And nothing is about, you know, an actual crime committed, because this is about the pirates stealing your energy. And, you know, the dark forces that we fight in battle.
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Dan Diescher: So…
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Dan Diescher: it's always jurisdiction. And if you know these things, and then you, you know, that you realize that as a court of record.
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Dan Diescher: That's what you have to do, is shut these smaller courts down, and tell them that they're not a court of record, and always challenge that jurisdiction. Because remember that, you know, your right is due process in all courts of law, and they must give you a jury of your peers
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Dan Diescher: to be judged by. And because the de facto system
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Dan Diescher: Gets their jury of peers out of the voting system, which we are not a part of. Well, then that's impossible for them to get us a jury of our peers to try us against.
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Dan Diescher: So it's always… it's a big game. I mean, you have to realize who you are, where you are, and where everybody else is, and what you're fighting against.
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Dan Diescher: I guess there's a whole lot more I'd like to touch on, but I…
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Dan Diescher: Goodness, I just… just made it out of the warehouse, and I guess that's it, I yield.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Go ahead, Derek.
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Derrick Sudler: Yeah, I… I wanna… so…
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Derrick Sudler: If you have to present yourself.
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Derrick Sudler: If you're…
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Derrick Sudler: you know, quite naturally, you should have an affidavit and some unrebutted by the time you get there. You certainly want to submit that immediately.
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Derrick Sudler: So by the time, you know, you are called…
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Derrick Sudler: to present yourself, you have that to stand on. But I wanted to say that… so again, we understand that these courts
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Derrick Sudler: Or not operating in honor.
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Derrick Sudler: We understand that, you know, they're very deceitful, and they're trying to create adhesion all the time.
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Derrick Sudler: We want to be mindful of the fact that, you know, they would try very quickly
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Derrick Sudler: To establish some type of content.
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Derrick Sudler: Right.
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Derrick Sudler: So we gotta navigate in a way that…
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Derrick Sudler: certainly isn't… doesn't present yourself harmless, I mean, because, you know, you just gotta be mindful, right? You can be belligerent and risk a lot of things.
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Derrick Sudler: But you want to be skillful.
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Derrick Sudler: Right? In your presentation, if you have to present yourself.
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Derrick Sudler: And this is why I say, if there's anything to be spoken.
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Derrick Sudler: Well, again, if there's… if the affidavit is not rebutted, then you establish an estoppel, right? You can establish an estoppel, and that pretty much concludes it.
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Derrick Sudler: But in the event that, something must be said.
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Derrick Sudler: And I agree with Neeti. You know, we don't want to try and speak off the cuff. I mean, I've had to navigate through this quite a few times.
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Derrick Sudler: And fortunately, I was able to stand, and navigate there through.
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Derrick Sudler: And the one thing I can say for certain is that
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Derrick Sudler: they're not moving in honor, right? So they're not gonna just do the things you're asking them to do.
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Derrick Sudler: And they may try and, you know, hold you in contempt if you're, not acknowledging something that the judge is
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Derrick Sudler: Wanting you to acknowledge. So if you have to speak on something or from something, you want to speak from something that preceded your presence, which is your paperwork, which is the unrebutted affidavit.
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Derrick Sudler: And you want to establish an estoppel.
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Derrick Sudler: So again, I just wanted to echo that, because, you know, you can get in a position to where you're dealing with a contempt of court, and now you're going to, you know, behind the wall for a few days, you're inconveniencing the family, it's a lot going on there.
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Derrick Sudler: So we want to be wise, you know, when navigating
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Derrick Sudler: In these waters, right? We want to be wise, and we want to present ourselves in a way, certainly a special appearance, that immediately challenges jurisdiction. And again, I can't say this enough.
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Derrick Sudler: All of your paperwork has got to precede your presence.
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Derrick Sudler: By far.
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Derrick Sudler: And once it's unrebutted, you've established the law that the court has to abide by.
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Derrick Sudler: If you have to speak, you want to speak from that paperwork, if you have to speak, but I agree with Neeti.
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Derrick Sudler: Try not, right? But again, we're not dealing with honorable people here.
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Derrick Sudler: Just keep that in mind.
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Derrick Sudler: Are you…
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Dan Diescher: And just because you dropped something off at the clerk of court doesn't mean that it got filed, or was technically received, because they have a… they have a very sleight of hand, it's like, Vegas in the casino. They'll just shove your paperwork under the desk somewhere and be like, oh, what? What paperwork?
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Well, if you have a chain of coffee?
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Dan Diescher: Not bad, too.
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Dan Diescher: I'm just… you want to be sly about that, too? Make sure you have a copy. It's just like your carrier service. That's why it's almost worth paying a carrier service, because there's no way to dance around it. You send it through somebody else. If you really have a problem you need to deal with, I suggest…
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Dan Diescher: Not that you… everybody's, you know, does their own, that you just pay for the carrier, and let them get a signature and a received. Bye.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Yeah, I mean, listen, Derek, have you, have you had to do this since… I mean, like, once you've declared, and also…
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: In, you know, after you have, like.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: been declared and given, like, had your paperwork go in ahead of time? Because most of the time, when you address the court with these few words in front of all of those people.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: They don't want your performance to go further.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: The other thing everybody here should know is that when you go into court, you're going in there, and you have to put on a performance.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: of a lifetime. You are going on stage.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Everything they do is theatrical.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: And so, when you go there, and you do this performance, they really don't want us to be up there very long. Most of the people that go in and do this the way that we're talking about, it's, less than a 5-minute exchange, because the judge is trying to get you out.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: The judge doesn't want anybody to catch on to what is happening.
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Derrick Sudler: Yeah.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Yeah, I yield.
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Derrick Sudler: And you're absolutely right. Once you start speaking, in lawful terms.
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Derrick Sudler: they're gonna find a way to move past you very, very quickly. If you have any stance, if you're standing on your square, you know what you're speaking of, they're either gonna try to put you in contempt.
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Derrick Sudler: or, you know, yield, to who you are, your presence. And yes, I've had to deal with all of that since, at, you know, since…
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Derrick Sudler: You know, returning to the land and soil.
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Derrick Sudler: And that's what I'm speaking of.
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Derrick Sudler: So yeah, you want to have a chain of custody if you ever, have to, you know, take any… because you want to have… there's a certificate of delivery that you can have signed.
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Derrick Sudler: And also, you know, you, you, you…
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Derrick Sudler: So, you actually, you know, your paperwork is filed
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Derrick Sudler: With the clerk of court, and also the district attorney.
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Derrick Sudler: So you're doing it two times, right? The clerk of court is receiving your documents, and then also the district attorney that's handling your case. And then you get that chain of custody saying, you know, a receipt. The copy that you get back from the clerk of court is stamped.
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Derrick Sudler: Saying that they received it.
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Derrick Sudler: So, you have your chain of custody, and they have that on the record.
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Derrick Sudler: But again, the carrier service is, is, is, works as well.
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Derrick Sudler: you know, I, you know, I just happened, you know, to go down myself, to the clerk of court and to the DA myself.
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Derrick Sudler: And be sure that I give them the documents,
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Derrick Sudler: With a, you know, a certificate, a chain of custody.
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Derrick Sudler: That's stamped by the clerk of court.
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Derrick Sudler: Stating that I've been there, the time I've been there, the documents, so forth and so on.
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Niti Bali - Bucolic Living Law: Have you done that recently, Derek? Like, gone? Because we have.
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Derrick Sudler: We just went recently. Yea
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