Investors are Earning 8-12% Yield Backed by Bitcoin. Michael Saylor Explains

Michael Saylor, Executive Chairman of Strategy, joins Natalie Brunell for a masterclass on Bitcoin credit. Topics include:

- Why people feel bearish about Bitcoin
- Bitcoin credit 101: The problem with fixed income and the opportunity Bitcoin creates for corporate finance
- Strategy's preferred stock playbook: STRK STRF STRD and STRC explained simply
- Why didn't Strategy make the S&P 500?
- Saylor's wisdom on political division in wake of Charlie Kirk assassination

Follow Michael Saylor on X https://x.com/saylor

⚡Coin Stories is powered by *Gemini* Invest as you spend with the Gemini Credit Card. Sign up today to earn a $200 intro Bitcoin bonus. 10% back at golf courses is available until 9/30/2025 on up to $250 in spend per month. Learn more at https://www.gemini.com/natalie

⚡*Bitwise* has over $10B in client assets, 32 investment products, and a team of 100+ employees across the US and Europe, all solely focused on Bitcoin and digital assets since 2017. Learn more at https://www.bitwiseinvestments.com

⚡ *Ledn* is the global leader in Bitcoin-backed loans, issuing over $9 billion in loans since 2018, and they were the first to offer proof of reserves. With Ledn, you get custody loans, no credit checks and no monthly payments. Get .25% off your first loan -- Learn more at https://www.Ledn.io/natalie

Natalie's Products and Events:

⚡ *Lightning Payments* - Use Speed Lightning Wallet, play Bitcoin trivia and win up to 1 million free sats! Sign up with promo code COINSTORIES10: https://www.speed.app/coinstories

🔒 *Bitkey Cold Storage* - Bitkey was named to TIME's prestigious Best Inventions of 2024 in the category of Privacy & Security. Get 20% off using code STORIES at https://bitkey.world

👩‍🏫 *1-on-1 Bitcoin Help* – My go-to for help with self-custody, privacy, and VPN support is The Bitcoin Way: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie

🧠 *Bitcoin Education* - Genius Group (NYSE: $GNS) is building a 10,000 BTC treasury and educating the world through the Genius Academy. Check out *free* courses from Saifedean Ammous and myself at https://www.geniusgroup.ai

⛏️ * Become a Bitcoin Miner * – Earn passive Bitcoin income with industry-leading uptime, renewable energy, ideal climate, expert support, and one month of free hosting when you join Abundant Mines at https://www.AbundantMines.com/Natalie

🎟️ *Bitcoin 2026* – Use code HODL for discounted passes! https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2026?promoCodeTask=apply&promoCodeInput=

📲 *SIM Swap Protection* – Secure your mobile phone from hacks that could steal your Bitcoin with Efani, trusted by CEOs, VIPs and top corporations: https://www.efani.com/natalie

🏥 *Ditch Fiat Health Insurance* – Join CrowdHealth: https://joincrowdhealth.com/natalie (or use promo code NATALIE)

🏕️ *Bitcoin Retreat – Camp Nakamoto* – Discounted passes with code HODL: https://massadoptionbtc.ticketspice.com/camp-nakamoto

*IN THIS COIN STORIES EPISODE*
00:00 Why Are People Bearish on Bitcoin?
4:32 Gemini Bitcoin Credit Card, Bitwise, Ledn Bitcoin-backed loans
5:48 Why Big Finance Holds Back on Bitcoin
12:54 Bitcoin as the Fixed-Income Solution
22:32 Preferred Stock Explained Simply
27:44 Speed Wallet, Bitkey, Bitcoin Way, Genius Academy
29:21 Inside STRK: Saylor’s Strategy
30:17 STRF Breakdown: What Investors Need
32:03 STRD Deep Dive
35:08 STRC Deep Dive
38:21 How Strategy Pays Dividends in Bitcoin
40:25 Saylor vs Credit Rating Agencies
40:53 Strategy’s Path to S&P 500 Inclusion
43:41 Institutions Quietly Accumulating Bitcoin
46:39 Bitcoin’s Long-Term Hope and Vision

*OTHER RESOURCES*
Natalie Brunell’s website https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/
Strategy https://www.strategy.com/

*FOLLOW NATALIE BRUNELL ON SOCIAL MEDIA*
X https://x.com/natbrunell
https://www.instagram.com/nataliebrunell
https://www.linkedin.com/in/nataliebrunell

Producer: Aron Bender https://www.linkedin.com/in/aron-bender/
Editor: Silas Foley

📄 LEGAL & RISK DISCLOSURE

1. No Financial Advice: This content is for entertainment purposes only and not intended as financial, legal, or tax advice. I am not a licensed financial advisor. Always consult a professional.
2. Sponsored Content & Affiliate Links: I may receive compensation when you use them, which helps support the channel at no additional cost to you.
3. Crypto Risk Warning: Cryptocurrencies are highly volatile and speculative. Risks include loss of capital, extreme price swings, and lack of regulatory protection.
4. Jurisdiction Notice: This content may not be appropriate for residents of jurisdictions where digital asset promotions are restricted or prohibited. Please verify your local laws before engaging.
5. Accuracy & Timeliness: All content reflects personal opinion and is based on available information at the time of recording. No guarantees are made regarding accuracy or future performance.

#bitcoin #crypto #bitcoinpodcast #macro #stocks #MSTR #Saylor #cryptocurrency #news #update #economy #bonds