Why Young People Are Saying No to Family — And How to Change It with Catherine Pakaluk - Episode 20

Why are fewer young people choosing marriage and children—and what can we learn from those who swim against the tide? Economist and author Catherine Pakaluk joins us to share the story behind her groundbreaking book Hannah’s Children. From her personal journey as a young wife and mother of six overnight, to her research on the cultural and spiritual roots of declining birth rates, Catherine unpacks what it really means to see children as gifts rather than burdens. This conversation is raw, hopeful, and deeply countercultural—perfect for anyone wrestling with questions of calling, career, and family.

01:22 – Welcome and introduction to Catherine Pakaluk
02:22 – Why Hannah’s Children was written
04:22 – The birth rate crisis and cultural shifts in Gen Z
07:22 – Catherine’s personal story: marriage, family, and unexpected callings
13:22 – Balancing being a new wife and instant mother of six
18:22 – “Readiness” and why waiting for the “perfect moment” doesn’t work
23:22 – One child at a time: openness without numbers
25:22 – Money myths: why children aren’t “too expensive”
30:22 – The deeper reasons behind declining birth rates
37:22 – How faith and lived experience shape the desire for children
43:22 – Can the economy incentivize larger families?
48:22 – Marriage, career, and calling: why it’s not either/or
51:22 – Where to find Catherine’s work and a sneak peek at her upcoming project

GenZ Unplugged is the official podcast for the Clare Boothe Luce Center for Conservative Women. Rotating hosts are Lauren Husmann, Catherine Hendershott, Rachel Hurley, and Hannah Faulkner. Producer is Sandra Scarlatoiu.

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