The Outer Realm- Fourth Wall Phantoms -Paranormal- Fictions to Facts with Joshua Cutchin

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The Outer Realm welcomes back Joshua Cutchin
Date: September 24th, 2025
EP: 619
TOPIC: Joshua joins the show to talk about his latest book " Fourth Wall Phantoms: Reflections on the Paranormal, Narrative, and Fictions Becoming Fact "

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About Joshua:
A full-time author and musician, Joshua Cutchin has appeared on hundreds of paranormal programs such as Coast to Coast AM and is regularly invited to speak at paranormal conferences about his work. He is the author of nine books, including 2022's critically-acclaimed two-part series Ecology of Souls: A New Mythology of Death & the Paranormal. His latest book, Fourth Wall Phantoms: Reflections on the Paranormal, Narrative, and Fictions Becoming Fact, was released in April 2025.

In addition to his own books, Joshua also regularly contributes to essay collections, most recently Dr. Jack Hunter’s Deep Weird(2023) and Dr. Simon Young’s The Cottingley Fairies (2024). He has appeared on the hit History Channel television series Ancient Aliens and was featured in 2024’s breakout UFO documentary, Cosmosis. He is a regular guest on the Where Did the Road Go? podcast and maintains an online presence at JoshuaCutchin.com

About The Book ( borrowed from Amazon)

Few of us ever expect to encounter flying saucers, monsters, or ghosts in our lifetime. Yet those who do inevitably face an unsettling realization: that reality is far stranger than we’ve been led to believe.
As shocking as these revelations might seem, they pale in comparison to an even more controversial phenomenon lurking in the shadows: encounters with fictional characters made real. Over the centuries, countless individuals have reported coming face-to-face with characters and creatures seemingly ripped from our collective imagination—everything from literary heroes to mythical beasts, even comic book superheroes.

What at first seems like a rarity soon reveals itself as a pervasive aspect of the paranormal writ large. UFOs mimic elements of pulp depictions. Cryptids emerge from folklore and fiction. Urban legends materialize as authentic ghostly phenomena. Evidence abounds for those willing to listen with open minds… and confront the impossible.

In Fourth Wall Phantoms, acclaimed paranormal author Joshua Cutchin dares to explore one of the few remaining taboos of High Strangeness: the permeable “fourth wall” separating fiction from reality. Through a mixture of both celebrated cases and rare or never-before-published accounts, Cutchin invites readers to venture beyond the page in a search for truth in the unlikeliest of places: the crossroads of the paranormal, the imaginary, and the real.

“The story in which fiction becomes fact saved Joshua Cutchin’s life. It can save yours, too. That’s because it is you. This was once called ‘myth,’ by which our intellectual ancestors did not mean untruth but something like, ‘This is really weird.’ I laughed a lot reading this book, giggling in recognition and realization. This is really weird, even more so because it is so.”

- Dr. Jeffrey J. Kripal, author of How to Think Impossibly: About Souls, UFOs, Time, Belief, and Everything Else

“Joshua Cutchin writes the sort of books I’ve been waiting my entire life for. In Fourth Wall Phantoms, Joshua is not comfortable with staying on shore, but buoys himself in very strange waters and urges us to look down into their depths with him. What we see is something which raises enormous questions about not only anomalous experiences but that of the creative act in every capacity that it is evoked. This is an extremely important work; the ramifications within Fourth Wall Phantoms cut across every aspect of the Paranormal, the Supernatural and especially the Occult. It is time to give long overdue attention to what the creative among us have always suspected, and quite a few of them already know—that our fictions are alive, real, and interact with us constantly.”

Where to Buy the Book:
Amazon link
:https://a.co/d/jcYMRgO

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