DISGRACEFUL ! Experts CAUGHT Lying in their paper about Phoenicians...

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Black people in early Mesopotamia
https://youtu.be/Zduifwd00uA?si=BzeEyfKx_SkfCbwn

This research paper lied about the first ever full Genome in Egypt
https://youtu.be/BFQk4a38cl4

This 42-minute deep dive challenges a headline-ready Nature paper claiming “Punic people were genetically diverse with almost no Levantine ancestors.” We unpack the study’s sampling window (no pre-600 BCE founders), the post-conquest timeline problem, and reference-panel choices (PCA/ADMIXTURE) that underplay African signals by omitting key Nile-Valley and sub-Saharan sources. Then we place genetics alongside osteology, iconography, and classical texts—Pittard, Diop, Keita, early Cádiz busts, and Phoenician origin traditions—to argue Carthage was an Afro-Mediterranean civilization whose founders and core identity were deeply tied to Africa.

By the end, you’ll see why “Punic people” as a blanket label obscures early Carthaginians, how figure-level modeling choices shape conclusions, and why the narrative about Carthage’s identity matters for historical accuracy—not ideology.

CHAPTERS
0:00 – Intro

5:00 – Chapter 1: The Data Dodge (no pre-600 BCE samples, cremation gap)

14:40 – Chapter 2: The Sicilian Smokescreen (Aegean/Sicily emphasis)

21:00 – Chapter 3: The PCA Shell Game (reference panel choices)

27:00 – Chapter 4: The Punic Terminology Trick (branding & generalization)

29:10 – Chapter 5: What founders would show if sampled

30:00 – Chapter 6: Figure 2’s Missing Pieces (no Egypt/Nubia references)

34:20 – Chapter 7: Evidence in Plain Sight (osteology, art, texts)

39:10 – Chapter 8: Bonus evidence

41:50 – Wrap-up & CTA

Sources

Sources:
Nature (2023) – “Punic people were genetically diverse with almost no Levantine ancestors.” (Ringbauer et al., Harvard/Max Planck study on Phoenician/Punic DNA). [Data and claims discussed throughout; see limitations admitted by authorsgroups.google.com.]

Herodotus – Histories (5th c. BCE). Phoenicians “formerly dwelt by the Red Sea” before migrating to Levantreddit.com.

Márquez-Grant, N. (2005) – Physical anthropology of Punic Ibiza (in Bulletin of the British Museum). Noted presence of individuals with African traits in Punic populationsen.wikipedia.org.

Pittard, E. (1924) – Les Races et l’Histoire. Reported Negroid affinities in Phoenician skulls (Sicily)groups.google.com and Carthaginian elite burialsgroups.google.com. Described Carthage’s Priestess of Tanit as “belonging to the African race”groups.google.com.

Diop, C.A. (1974) – The African Origin of Civilization. Interpreted anthropological data to argue for Black elements in Phoenician and Carthaginian populationsgroups.google.comgroups.google.com.

Audisio, G. (1961) – Historian quoting: “Hannibal... nor Punic, but North African... majority of Punic populace had African (Negroid) ancestry.”blackhistoryheroes.com

Desanges, J. (20th c.) – Noted “negroid remains were not rare” in Punic tombsen.wikipedia.org.

S.O.Y. Keita (1990; 2018) – Studies on North African crania: many pre-Roman Carthaginian skulls group with equatorial Africans and ancient Egyptiansen.wikipedia.org, consistent with mix of local African and Levantine.

Haber et al. (2017) – DNA study on ancient Canaanites and modern Lebanese: found continuity since Bronze Age and ~10% Eurasian admixture arriving 1700–300 BCE. Suggests earlier populations lacked later foreign gene flow.

Ras Shamra texts (Ugarit) – Indicate Phoenicians traced origin to Egypt (Nubio-Kemetic civilization).

Phoenician Artifacts:

8th c. BC Nimrud plaque showing Phoenician with African features.

Phoenician bust from 9th c. BC Cádiz with Black features.

Later Phoenician sarcophagi in Cádiz (5th–1st c. BC) with European features (showing demographic change).

Carthaginian coins (e.g. possible Hannibal coin) depicting African-featured head and elephantblackhistoryheroes.com.

Classical writers: Tertullian on Gaetulians (dark) and Moors (black)en.wikipedia.org; Herodotus and Strabo on “Ethiopians” in North Africa.

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