Grace for Us, Judgment for You: The Double Standard of the NAR | Jed Hartley | Episode 432

John and Jed discuss the misuse of authority within modern religious movements, reflecting on their personal experiences growing up under high-control leaders. Jed shares his background as the son of a leader involved in the International House of Prayer, highlighting the emotional and psychological toll of living under strict doctrines and fear-based teachings. They explore the internal conflict of being raised in a system that strictly judged moral behavior—especially among youth—while offering grace and protection to those in positions of power who committed serious misconduct. This hypocrisy, they note, creates a culture where the powerful avoid accountability, and the vulnerable are left without justice or support.

The conversation shifts toward how movements such as the New Apostolic Reformation operate through networks of control and mutual protection. John and Jed trace how spiritual authority is often used to suppress victims and silence dissenters, even when allegations involve deeply harmful actions. They describe how internal loyalty, fear of losing influence, and the structure of charismatic leadership keep victims from being heard. They also reflect on attempts to reform these systems through compassion-centered justice, where the needs and voices of survivors are prioritized over maintaining the reputation of leaders. The discussion ends with hope that more people are awakening to these injustices and choosing to stand on the side of truth and healing.

00:00 Introduction
00:31 Jed’s Background and the Label of “False Prophet’s Son”
02:03 Abuse of Power and Coverups in Revival Movements
03:32 Forgiveness vs. Restoration of Abusive Leaders
04:46 Growing Up in a Judgmental Sect
07:11 Prophecies of 2015 and Fear-Based Control
09:15 Manipulation of Children with Doctrines of Shame
11:26 Fire, Brimstone, and Cold War Fears
13:18 Grace for Leaders, Judgment for Members
14:24 Wrestling with the Concept of Justice
17:40 The Agenda of Control vs. True Christianity
20:28 Why Leaders Avoid Criticizing Each Other
26:35 Prophecy, Smith Wigglesworth, and Branham’s Rise
28:38 Lack of Justice for Victims of Early Pentecostal Leaders
30:53 Victim-First Advocacy and the Mike Bickle Case
35:11 Statutes of Limitations as Tools for Predators
36:30 Bob Jones, Prophecy, and the Mantle Obsession
43:03 The Network of Apostolic Control
44:42 Mob Parallels and Mantle Politics
46:57 Bob Jones’ Funeral and Necromancy Accusations
50:42 Power and Profit over Compassion
53:16 The Phoniness of Courage in NAR Leaders
56:11 Shifts Toward Victim-First Justice
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