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“In the New And Everlasting Covenant!” GET TO THE POINT™ Come Follow Me: D&C 129-132
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Opening Hymn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwlTMShtuWA
Intro
i. You're looking good today and it feels good to be with you.
II. Theme: "In the New And Everlasting Covenant!"
i. Nauvoo era. Shift from revelations to teachings.
1. There was revelation, but not the written revelations in earlier church history.
2. No explanation why.
a. Threshold--have enough. Joshua 1, Law not depart, but meditate upon it.
b. JS growing as a speaker and teacher
III. Point I 129: Detection, 27 June 1839, D&C 50. https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/discourse-27-june-1839-as-reported-by-wilford-woodruff-b/1
i. WJS, 6 In order to detect the devil when he transforms himself nigh unto an angel of light. When an angel of God appears unto man face to face in personage & reaches out his hand unto the man & he takes hold of the angels hand & feels a substance the Same as one man would in shaking hands with another he may then know that it is an angel of God, & he should place all Confidence in him Such personages or angels are Saints with there resurrected Bodies, but if a personage appears unto man & offers him his hand & the man takes hold of it & he feels nothing or does not sens any substance he may know it is the devil, for when a Saint whose body is not resurrected appears unto man in the flesh he will not offer him his hand for this is against the law given him & in keeping in mind these things we may detect the devil that he deceived us not.
ii. Why do we need to know this?
IV. Point II 130 Q&A: take notes
i. After dinner conversation, Wm Clayton took notes.
ii. Doctrine, and skirts speculative areas
1. Savior a human
2. Second comforter
3. Time
a. Orbits:
i. Mercury: 88 days
ii. Venus: 225 days
iii. Earth: 365 days
iv. Mars: 687 days
v. Ceres: 1,682 day
vi. Jupiter: 4,333 days
vii. Saturn: 10,759 days
viii. Uranus: 30,687 days
ix. Neptune: 60,190 days
x. Pluto: 90,520 days
xi. Your age * 365/ planet orbit
b. Thomistic philosophy "Aeviternity"
i. TPJS, 371, "No man can limit the bounds or the eternal existence of eternal time."
ii. Daniel H Wells JD 9:259-260, "True, we are passing through that portion which is called time, but is not this a part of eternity? "
iii. Relativity: The Special and General Theory by Albert Einstein, translated by Robert William Lawson, chapter 9. "Every reference-body (co-ordinate system) has its own particular time; unless we are told the reference-body to which the statement of time refers, there is no meaning in a statement of the time of an event.Heaven is a large U&T, Personal seer stone. Tutoring device. Use AI to get micro-lessons on things.
4. Second coming. JS asking a question he shouldn't be asking, forced an answer. TG, GS
5. Intelligence, and advantage by obedience
6. Law of Obedience: obey law
a. RMN and heart surgery, D&C 88. What are the laws?
i. Recovering from an illness
ii. Job hunt
iii. Strong marriage
7. Bodies, and Holy Ghost not tarry. Need separation to grow, make own decisions
a. Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p.313 GIFT OF THE HOLY GHOST
b. Even a righteous person is often left to himself so that he does not at all times enjoy the promptings of revelation and light from the Holy Ghost. "Every elder of the Church who has received the Holy Ghost by the laying on of hands, by one having authority, has power to confer that gift upon another; it does not follow that a man who has received the presentation or gift of the Holy Ghost shall always receive the recognition and witness and presence of the Holy Ghost himself; or he may receive all these, and yet the Holy Ghost not tarry with him, but visit him from time to time; and neither does it follow that a man must have the Holy Ghost present with him when he confers the Holy Ghost upon another, but he possesses the gift of the Holy Ghost, and it will depend upon the worthiness of him unto whom the gift is bestowed whether he receives the Holy Ghost or not." (Gospel Doctrine, 5th ed., p. 61.)
V. Point III Marriage
i. 131
1. Celestial marriage and degrees. Marriage is an order of the PH, question about women and PH
2. Calling and election made sure. revelation and power of PH, ordinance involved. AF 5
3. Spirit is matter. Philosophy test. Descartes and Ghost in Machine
ii. 132
1. Outlines
a. Question
b. What I reveal, you have to obey. BOJared and do you believe on thing's I'm going to say.
c. Nature of God: Law: If not approved by me, of no force after death. (Mercy and grace cannot rob justice.)
i. Problem of law and justice
ii. Invoke grace, as applied, not God enabling power, but avoidance tactic.
iii. Metaxis, Focus on "faith alone" can make Christianity "thin and one dimensional" Same can be said about grace: trump card. Paul warned "continue in sin that grace may abound" Rom. 6?
d. Three variations to illustrate a point
i. Not done with eternal view
ii. Not approves, says eternal (by me and word)
1. saved vs exalted state.
iii. Approved (calling and election made sure, added)
e. Nature of Polygamy: Abraham and case study
i. Abraham and Sarah and Hagar, Patriarchs
1. Abraham to marry Hagar
2. Abraham to offer Isaac
a. "Happiness object and design of existence" TPJS, 255ff. This was a letter to Nacy Rigden. JS send letters to wives, and ask to destroy them. This may be one.
b. Similar logic to this section. Parable of talents. WJS, 173, 269
ii. King David fallen
iii. JS sealed exaltation. "make a way for escape and Isaac"
iv. Emma, "partake not that which I commanded to offer her" and receive JS wives. Forgive him.
v. Women and Law of Sarah.
vi. Reveal more hereafter,no more at present.
2. Polygamy in heaven or future.
a. DHO O 2019
b. Isaiah Ch 4, JST puts at end of Ch 3. seven women.
c. More women in heaven? Why is that?
i. Women more righteous then men?
ii. What do you mean by righteousness?
iii. being judge on righteousness, or being a woman? If women are more righteousness then men, why this advantage? Being judged on being a woman.
iv. Female vices?
VI. Christ Quotient
i. Atonement Quotient :
1. Marriage and the atonement.
2. Ordinance vs. social custom
ii. Second Coming
1. God's time vs our time: "At the doors"
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