123. Israel Is Collapsing From Within • Ilan Pappé Explains Why •🕞52 mins

Repost: 1 December 2025 • Is Israel beginning to collapse from within❓ In this in depth conversation, renowned Israeli historian Ilan Pappé explains why he believes Zionism has entered its final phase, how Israeli society is disintegrating internally, and what a just future for Palestinians and Israelis could look like.
Pappé, director of the European Centre for Palestine Studies and author of The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, Lobbying for Zionism on Both Sides of the Atlantic and Israel on the Brink, , draws on decades of archival research to argue that Israel is a classic settler colonial project built on ethnic cleansing, apartheid and permanent military rule over Palestinians. He details the social implosion inside Israel, the growing split between secular and religious Jews, the role of the U.S. and European powers, and why he thinks decolonization is inevitable.
We discuss 1948 and the Nakba, the Gaza war, accusations of genocide, the collapse of the two state solution, one democratic state between the river and the sea, Jewish-Palestinian coexistence, and what real decolonization might require in practice. For anyone trying to understand the future of Israel-Palestine, this is an unfiltered, long form analysis from one of the conflict’s most important dissident historians.

—— Timestamps: ——————
🕞 00:00 - Intro / trailer
🕞 01:07 - Conversation begins - why Israel is in crisis
🕞 05:14 - Zionism as a settler‑colonial project
🕞 11:48 - 1948, the Nakba and planned expulsion
🕞 17:05 - How occupation reshaped Israeli society
🕞 22:36 - “State of Israel” vs “State of Judea”
🕞 28:09 - Religious extremism and talk of civil war
🕞 33:41 - Gaza, genocide allegations and international law
🕞 39:27 - Is this the “last phase” of Zionism?
🕞 44:55 - One democratic state and decolonization
🕞 49:20 - Role of the US, Europe and Arab regimes
🕞 52:10 - Ilan Pappé’s warning and closing thoughts

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📘 About Ilan Pappé
Renowned Israeli historian, director of the European Centre for Palestine Studies, and author of The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, Ten Myths About Israel and Israel on the Brink.

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