212.20251207 The 9/11 War Room

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9/11 War Room Notes

Public Trust in Government: 1958-2025
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/12/04/public-trust-in-government-1958-2025/

Can we just abolish the TSA and start over already? | Opinion
By Nicole Russell USA TODAY ([email protected] https://x.com/russell_nm)
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2025/12/07/abolish-tsa-holiday-travel-airport-security/87586958007/

Next Sunday: Professor Richard Ellefritz to give Third Annual David Ray Griffin Lecture on ‘9/11 Truth Today’
The roundtable discussion following the lecture will include 9/11 journalists and advocates Jason Bermas, James Corbett, Sandra Laratonda and Madhava Setty, MD.
https://ic911.org/news/next-sunday-professor-richard-ellefritz-to-give-third-annual-david-ray-griffin-lecture-on-9-11-truth-today/

‘One of the most important cases of our lifetime’: Ted Walter discusses the 9/11 UK Supreme Court case on Redacted
https://ic911.org/news/one-of-the-most-important-cases-of-our-lifetime-ted-walter-discusses-the-9-11-uk-supreme-court-case-on-redacted/

9/11 Revisited: A Firefighter’s Story That Could Change Everything! With Erik Lawyer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBJKonfOM24

9/11: Does Gen Z Believe the Official Narrative?
In this clip from their November 30th Locals exclusive Q&A, Bret and Heather answer a member's question about 9/11.
https://x.com/thedarkhorsepod/status/1995580867792818649

Was 9/11 an inside job?
https://polymarket.com/event/was-911-an-inside-job?tid=1765147379023

Boston 9/11 Truth spotlight interviews
Rumble.com/Boston911Truth
To get an invite, please email Sue Serpa at [email protected].
Upcoming guests:
Dec 11 - Mark Rossini
Jan 8 - Dr. Richard Ellefritz
Jan 22 - Dan Noel
Feb 5 - Sibel Edmonds

===WHO WE ARE==============

The 9/11 WarRoom (911WarRoom.com) is a weekly open roundtable discussion hosted by Gene & Sandra focusing on 9/11 news, strategy and activism. Everyone is welcome to participate in the conversation or just listen in.

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=== CHAT LOG ===

2025-12-07 17:01:41 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
West By God Virginia!

2025-12-07 17:03:01 From Zoom user to Everyone:
Hola

2025-12-07 17:07:18 From bob to Everyone:
Good afternoon . . . .

2025-12-07 17:08:38 From bob to Everyone:
do you have a link to this?

2025-12-07 17:19:55 From bob to Everyone:
Yay GEN Z~! question EVERYTHING!

2025-12-07 17:20:20 From Zoom user to Everyone:
Darkhorse Podcast on x.com

2025-12-07 17:21:22 From bob to Everyone:
wow man, they would never do that . . . ( or? )

2025-12-07 17:22:08 From Karl Golovin to Everyone:
Heritage Foundation's Kevin Roberts briefed on USS Liberty and 9/11, during reception following 12/5/2025 all-day "President's Club" activities in DC.

2025-12-07 17:22:10 From Karl Golovin to Everyone:
pic-b8c0030e-691e-4f0f-a374-18cb9df25028.jpg

2025-12-07 17:25:55 From Karl Golovin to Everyone:
NSA FOIA - Appeal Letter - Golovin - Case 121585.pdf

2025-12-07 17:26:05 From Gene & Sandra | 911WarRoom.com to Everyone:
https://ic911.org/news/one-of-the-most-important-cases-of-our-lifetime-ted-walter-discusses-the-9-11-uk-supreme-court-case-on-redacted/

2025-12-07 17:26:07 From Zoom user to Everyone:
We’re influencers, and our parents are our first teachers. Kudos to you, Sandra, on guiding your son on the path to #FreeingTruth.

2025-12-07 17:27:46 From Karl Golovin to Everyone:
Appeal filee 12/6/2025 of NSA Denial of FOIA for records of "wireless spectrum used for detonation of explosives" on 9/11/2001 in proximity to WTC buildings and the Pentagon.

2025-12-07 17:31:21 From Karl Golovin to Everyone:
NSA FOIA - Appeal Letter - Golovin - Case 121585(2).pdf

2025-12-07 17:32:14 From Karl Golovin to Everyone:
121585-Golovin.pdf

2025-12-07 17:33:15 From Zoom user to Everyone:
Instagram

2025-12-07 17:33:26 From Gene & Sandra | 911WarRoom.com to Everyone:
https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.instagram.com%2Freel%2FDQKYpBpD-ku%2F%3Figsh%3DMWQyNTE1MTg0eWVpdQ%253D%253D%26fbclid%3DIwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAYnJpZBExYXFwV1EwaFRqZkVlbkpDVnNydGMGYXBwX2lkEDIyMjAzOTE3ODgyMDA4OTIAAR4s1PYmmwIqkRqhDwEqHAaspi0J4lzvwxeqYcyTtRA8p-FgDraHyPFHl_evtw_aem_p6etAqZQaQDpV2hW26psLw&h=AT0RzHxSYR7bj78cOTpZ7MEAZmhWAm2n5_VGd0h_st2BtdkuCHmiLwQ2JgEJQ6InL88UYR99si55lBIC0UudM611qBcFLjWiXN2BZbFFCDp3n7FodXO2AP6xPRBztnnCRcvVxRbuj8P7a11q

2025-12-07 17:35:53 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
I was in close contact with Steven Jones, helping AE write up the nanothermite evidence, and he contacted me, concerned, questioning whether or not planes had hit the towers. He had seen the video. I told him that actual plane crashes and faked video were not mutually exclusive- both can exist at the same time.

2025-12-07 17:36:39 From bob to Everyone:
@Karl Golovin  [email protected]

2025-12-07 17:38:57 From Brian Good to Everyone:
Replying to "I was in close contact with Steven Jones, helping ...":
A standard disinfo technique is to unreliably report on facts. Dan Rather's memo about W's military service was a case in point.

2025-12-07 17:40:35 From magnus langlete to Everyone:
Peter jennings https://youtu.be/CtroUJbDfTs?si=hWouDM9OKj1dZFch

2025-12-07 17:40:55 From bob to Everyone:
I don't have a FarceBook account, that previous link
contains the Instagram.com bit, does that work as accessing the Instagram exclucively?

2025-12-07 17:41:19 From magnus langlete to Everyone:
https://youtu.be/wl2B6kp7fcs?si=ISH74SjYwxYpCfJY aaron brown

2025-12-07 17:41:40 From Zoom user to Everyone:
Kevin Roberts, President of the “conservative” #HeritageFoundation, is open to bringing up the #USSLiberty!

2025-12-07 17:42:23 From J.B. Hockersmith to Everyone:
"THE USS LIBERTY AND THE GULF OF TONKIN - FALSE FLAGS & COVER UPS!"
https://rumble.com/v53jq3z-the-uss-liberty-and-the-gulf-of-tonkin-false-flags-and-cover-ups.html?e9s=src_v1_upp_a

2025-12-07 17:43:28 From Gene & Sandra | 911WarRoom.com to Everyone:
Was 9/11 an inside job?

https://polymarket.com/event/was-911-an-inside-job?tid=1765147379023

2025-12-07 17:45:00 From Brian Good to Everyone:
Replying to "Was 9/11 an inside job?https://polymarket.com/even...":
The problem with polls is that different people have different definitions of "inside job".

2025-12-07 17:46:35 From Zoom user to Everyone:
Right. Inside AND outside job.

2025-12-07 17:49:54 From Zoom user to Everyone:
“Group of 5”! Ja, ja!

2025-12-07 17:50:22 From bob to Everyone:
Ya, one can KNOW that there is plenty wrong with the official story without so much as thinking the word CONSPIRACY . . .

2025-12-07 17:50:49 From Zoom user to Everyone:
Danger! Analysis Paralysis!

2025-12-07 17:51:06 From bob to Everyone:
Kvetch . . Kvetch . . Kevtch . . . !

2025-12-07 17:53:55 From Eli’s iPhone to Everyone:
I dont agree with karls opinion but i do think he should be able to give his opinion

2025-12-07 17:54:14 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
If you play chess, you know that often pieces, pawns, whatever, need to be moved in advance of what you intend.

2025-12-07 17:55:03 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
The first thing is “what happened”? Regarding 9/11 of course. Then, after what happened has been determined, then you can get to “who did it”.

2025-12-07 17:55:18 From Roy McCoy to Everyone:
Who is Zoom user?

2025-12-07 18:00:20 From bob to Everyone:
the whole "FLT77" bit is COMPELLING EVIDENCE

2025-12-07 18:00:57 From J.B. Hockersmith to Everyone:
FireFighters for 9/11 Truth:
911FireFighters.org

2025-12-07 18:00:59 From J.B. Hockersmith to Everyone:
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2025-12-07 18:01:04 From Mike Porrazzo to Everyone:
Leave the pentagon out too much division, Focus on what we can prove !! WTC 7 and 1 & 2

2025-12-07 18:01:34 From bob to Everyone:
we NEED the
"FLT77" bit to be included

2025-12-07 18:01:55 From Mike Zarzano-Palm Beach Oversight Committee to Everyone:
This is exactly why we need more transparency!!!!

2025-12-07 18:04:12 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
I’m going to start punching myself in the face. I hope that helps…

2025-12-07 18:06:36 From Zoom user to Everyone:
Bollyn.com!

2025-12-07 18:06:41 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
If the door gets opened, everything can follow

2025-12-07 18:07:05 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
\The way the door gets opened is the most basic and solid science evidence

2025-12-07 18:07:09 From Karl Golovin to Everyone:
👍

2025-12-07 18:08:51 From Zoom user to Everyone:
No, not true.

2025-12-07 18:09:22 From Zoom user to Everyone:
Hopefully

2025-12-07 18:11:11 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
I just want to lighten things up a bit. These “kids” the Greystones are amazing… good for the soul! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuinvmsRGNY&list=RDBuinvmsRGNY&start_radio=1

2025-12-07 18:11:46 From Mike Zarzano-Palm Beach Oversight Committee to Everyone:
We don’t need lightening up. We must have debate and dialogue

2025-12-07 18:11:56 From bob to Everyone:
@benjamin Please contact me [email protected]
& Thanks

2025-12-07 18:12:08 From Brian Good to Everyone:
The problem, benjamin, is that too many truthers mistake their own rather dubious opinions for facts. And too many truth seekers think they already know the truth.

2025-12-07 18:12:21 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
Replying to "We don’t need lightening up. We must have debate a...":
Things get very heated for no fucking reason at all- not productive.

2025-12-07 18:13:43 From Zoom user to Everyone:
Right! CIA AND Mossad!

2025-12-07 18:13:44 From bob to Everyone:
@Brian Good RE: the certainty about what any given "truther" knows and I cite the fact that NO academic will touch the analysis of the plane crashes or rather alleged plane crashes . . .

2025-12-07 18:14:42 From Brian Good to Everyone:
Replying to "@Brian Good RE: the certainty about what any given...":
Right. there is no "

2025-12-07 18:14:47 From Zoom user to Everyone:
Treason! Yes!

2025-12-07 18:14:59 From Mike Porrazzo to Everyone:
mike Zarzano thats fucking brilliant !

2025-12-07 18:15:05 From Zoom user to Everyone:
Hear Here!

2025-12-07 18:15:11 From Mike Porrazzo to Everyone:
yes treason!!!

2025-12-07 18:15:40 From Jon Olsen to Everyone:
Amen Mike! The political issues are central.

2025-12-07 18:17:04 From bob to Everyone:
How many people KNOW about the Pentagon hit?

2025-12-07 18:17:54 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
Replying to "yes treason!!!":
First, officially admitted, WTAF happened. Then you can start rounding people up and hanging them. Season is the only crime outlined in the constitution. It’s punishable by death by hanging.

2025-12-07 18:18:05 From Zoom user to Everyone:
Kumbaya don’t cut it

2025-12-07 18:18:16 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
Replying to "yes treason!!!":
It’s long past time for public hangings to make a comeback!

2025-12-07 18:19:16 From bob to Everyone:
Replying to "yes treason!!!":
Prosecution for certain . . . capital punishment . . NO . . . Civilization has movved on from that.

2025-12-07 18:19:36 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
Replying to "yes treason!!!":
Bell Bottoms too! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ARFyrM6gVs

2025-12-07 18:19:40 From Jon Olsen to Everyone:
Replying to "yes treason!!!":
Michael, I prefer tar and feather.

2025-12-07 18:19:56 From bob to Everyone:
Replying to "Kumbaya don’t cut it":
in referece to exactly what?

2025-12-07 18:20:39 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
Replying to "yes treason!!!":
@Jon Olsen YES! Tarring and Feathering needs a comeback too!!!

2025-12-07 18:21:20 From bob to Everyone:
we need to energize the COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION

2025-12-07 18:21:43 From Zoom user to Everyone:
Christopher Bollyn (Bollyn.com) identified the “Architectural Level” TRAITORS in his essential Truther book #Solving911: the Deception that Changed the World.

2025-12-07 18:22:46 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
Replying to "Kumbaya don’t cut it":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9xX8jpugD8&list=PLeb9zWBI65_lTNkgElTcG7EFdSZ_zXjNE&index=4

2025-12-07 18:23:37 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
Replying to "Christopher Bollyn (Bollyn.com) identified the “Ar...":
I brought him to town, paid for his hotel, got him on TV, got him three speaking appearances.

2025-12-07 18:24:02 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
Replying to "Christopher Bollyn (Bollyn.com) identified the “Ar...":
His wife is HOT!

2025-12-07 18:24:55 From Brian Good to Everyone:
If Karl had been to law school he would know what a "FACT PATTERN" IS.

2025-12-07 18:28:40 From bob to Everyone:
who is "zoom user" . . .?

2025-12-07 18:28:59 From Zoom user to Everyone:
Replying to "who is "zoom user" . . .?":
LewWelge.com

2025-12-07 18:30:04 From Zoom user to Everyone:
Yep

2025-12-07 18:30:32 From Zoom user to Everyone:
Yep

2025-12-07 18:30:36 From Ross Migrating Bird to Everyone:
Right on Mike

2025-12-07 18:31:10 From Jon Olsen to Everyone:
Agreed. Karl has been rather belligerent in attitude, factual views aside. He refused to stand down when asked, more than once.

2025-12-07 18:31:39 From Zoom user to Everyone:
Yes!

2025-12-07 18:32:37 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
Christopher Bollyn has been poisoned- that’s why he’s unreachable.

2025-12-07 18:32:51 From bob to Everyone:
Kvetch, Kvetch, Kvetch . . . . . . . . or something

2025-12-07 18:33:16 From Zoom user to Everyone:
Replying to "Christopher Bollyn has been poisoned- that’s why h...":
Wouldn’t doubt it. With the jab, at least.

2025-12-07 18:33:23 From bob to Everyone:
Replying to "Christopher Bollyn has been poisoned- that’s why h...":
Physically or politically?

2025-12-07 18:34:23 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
Replying to "Christopher Bollyn has been poisoned- that’s why h...":
Physically

2025-12-07 18:35:10 From bob to Everyone:
Replying to "Christopher Bollyn has been poisoned- that’s why h...":
Thanks for the answer . . . Bummer, I hope he is recovering

2025-12-07 18:35:21 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
Replying to "Christopher Bollyn has been poisoned- that’s why h...":
Me too!

2025-12-07 18:35:23 From Mike Zarzano-Palm Beach Oversight Committee to Everyone:
I never said to drag Christopher !! Don’t misquote with disinfo

2025-12-07 18:38:17 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
Richard Gage for president! Ted Walter for vice president- Christopher Bollyn for Secretary of State!

2025-12-07 18:38:29 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
That will teach them…

2025-12-07 18:38:53 From bob to Everyone:
Replying to "Richard Gage for president! Ted Walter for vice pr...":
Groovie Fantasy . . . but not happening ...oops

2025-12-07 18:39:56 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
Speaker of the House? Next in line after they knock off the president and vice president… I have some ideas…

2025-12-07 18:39:57 From bob to Everyone:
I don't see what the problem is with including the Pentagon? . . . what?

2025-12-07 18:41:53 From Brian Good to Everyone:
Replying to "I don't see what the problem is with including the...":
The no-plane theory lacks evidence -- and yet its advocates make gaudy claims of "proof".

2025-12-07 18:42:44 From bob to Everyone:
Replying to "I don't see what the problem is with including the...":
Note . . . LAWS OF PHYSICS . . . the plane crashes could not possibly have been as was reported in the official fiary tale

2025-12-07 18:43:25 From benjamin to Everyone:
Replying to "I don't see what the problem is with including the...":
I found David Chandlers analysis convincing, especially in his most recent video, but I appreciate discussion on it

2025-12-07 18:43:55 From Eli’s iPhone to Everyone:
There is a difference between “asking questions” and casting aspersions

2025-12-07 18:44:00 From Zoom user to Everyone:
And CONtrolled opponents have infiltrated US.

2025-12-07 18:44:16 From Eli’s iPhone to Everyone:
The discussion on this call about Ted has been mostly casting aspersions

2025-12-07 18:44:38 From Brian Good to Everyone:
Replying to "I don't see what the problem is with including the...":
@bob Fine. You are free to found Aeronautical engineers fir 9/11 Truth if you wish. Good luck with that.

2025-12-07 18:45:35 From bob to Everyone:
Note: for discussion about the NO-PLANES arguments Please see bobthefreeradical.substack.com

2025-12-07 18:45:54 From bob to Everyone:
you don't have to even give an email address in order to read it.

2025-12-07 18:45:57 From Zoom user to Everyone:
Not “only” but major evidence of inside guv involvement.

2025-12-07 18:46:48 From Brian Good to Everyone:
Replying to "And CONtrolled opponents have infiltrated US.":
Certainly we have been infiltrated by disinfo agents from the very start. Which is why it's important to stick to quality arguments and avoid ad hominem attacks.

2025-12-07 18:47:16 From bob to Everyone:
Controll freaks unite!

2025-12-07 18:47:40 From Susan Serpa to Everyone:
Paul Deslauriers on Boston 9/11 Truth
https://rumble.com/v6xxiwk-paul-deslauries-on-boston-911-truth-8212025.html

2025-12-07 18:49:37 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
You pronounce her name “Hell Ya”- I got that from Christopher Bollyn himself- I didn’t know how to call her.

2025-12-07 18:49:43 From Susan Serpa to Everyone:
To be included as a participant on a Boston 9/11 Truth zoom, email [email protected]

2025-12-07 18:51:11 From iPhone to Everyone:
I have to go guys . Peace !

2025-12-07 18:51:30 From bob to Everyone:
@iPhone who is "iPhone" . . . I B curious

2025-12-07 18:53:17 From Mike to Everyone:
This is Mike F BTW, but no comment for round the room

2025-12-07 18:58:54 From Zoom user to Everyone:
CONSTRUCTIVE criticism!

2025-12-07 18:59:51 From Mike to Everyone:
Actually I can make a comment

2025-12-07 19:02:19 From Mike to Everyone:
It should be there for sure.

Depends on the platform and audience etc.

2025-12-07 19:07:57 From Jon Olsen to Everyone:
Yes Eric.

2025-12-07 19:10:46 From Zoom user to Everyone:
12.11

2025-12-07 19:12:43 From Zoom user to Everyone:
Yay!

2025-12-07 19:13:08 From Zoom user to Everyone:
Links, please.

2025-12-07 19:14:28 From Zoom user to Everyone:
Kevin Ryan’s #Another19 is a bit wordy, though.

2025-12-07 19:15:11 From Joshua Shoenfeld to Everyone:
9/11 The Israel Connection by Gavin O'Reilly ; Terrorism Against America: External and Internal Terrorists by Rodney Stich.

2025-12-07 19:16:55 From Zoom user to Everyone:
Darth Cheney!

2025-12-07 19:18:55 From Gene & Sandra | 911WarRoom.com to Everyone:
https://ic911.org/books-and-series/another-nineteen/

2025-12-07 19:22:54 From Mike Zarzano-Palm Beach Oversight Committee to Everyone:
911 was TREASON NOT TERRORISM

2025-12-07 19:24:51 From Jon Olsen to Everyone:
Mysterious death of Prof. Francis Boyle last January--no cause of death cited in obituary.

2025-12-07 19:31:11 From Mike Zarzano-Palm Beach Oversight Committee to Everyone:
We can’t welcome bs!

2025-12-07 19:31:39 From benjamin to Everyone:
Replying to "We can’t welcome bs!":
better to debunk it publicly instead of try to hid it

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