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$1 Trillion in Donations. ZERO Transparency. Nathan & Chris Ayoub Reveal Everything | DSH #1675
Nathan and Chris from The Religion Business return to break down one of the most shocking and underreported issues in America:
How a trillion-dollar religious industry operates with zero required transparency.
📘 WHAT YOU’LL LEARN
💰 How mega churches operate financially without IRS oversight
🏠 Why pastors legally take unlimited tax-free housing allowances
🚨 How Nathan ended up arrested for asking basic questions
📊 Why transparency is nearly impossible in the current system
📉 How $92 billion gets stolen from church donors every year
🏛️ Why some churches function more like dynasties than ministries
📘 What scripture actually says vs how it’s commonly used
✝️ Why reading the Bible alone creates real spiritual maturity
⚖️ How political power merges with religious authority
🔎 Why a new social contract is needed for nonprofits
📱 How donors can use tech to hold churches accountable
🏡 Why home churches are rising as mega churches decline
CHAPTERS
00:00 – How they pick targets: “God puts breadcrumbs in front of us”
01:00 – The Religion Business series officially releases
01:41 – Not a hit piece — why they chose an exploratory approach
03:01 – Getting arrested during an investigation
04:43 – Housing allowances & pastors taking unlimited tax-free money
06:20 – The pastor with $15M in real estate
07:35 – Why members left after seeing the show
08:43 – Mega churches with 5k–10k members & private garages
09:55 – Should member count be capped? Transparency vs power
10:50 – The tipping point: donors taking control
11:51 – 800 pastors contacted… zero responses
13:02 – The Chicago mega church that shut down transparency
14:00 – Are churches businesses? $1 trillion says yes
15:01 – Why churches don’t file with the IRS
16:22 – The Hell’s Angels qualify as a church — here’s why
17:58 – Most Christians don’t actually read the Bible
19:26 – Why reading and praying alone builds true foundations
21:15 – How pastors twist scripture to raise millions
23:25 – The tithe: what the Bible actually says
24:52 – If churches solved homelessness, donations would dry up
26:58 – Politics + religion = the historical “death rattle”
29:04 – Paula White’s confidential bylaws & total veto power
31:25 – Political funding from church donations
33:00 – Should churches pay taxes? The new social contract
34:37 – $92B stolen by church staff annually
36:00 – The real estate scandals no one talks about
38:11 – Justin Bieber’s pastor & ignored olive branches
39:47 – Why no pastor will debate them
41:00 – The slush-fund problem: ministry expenses with no definitions
43:15 – The Broken Shepherds app: transparency for donors
44:51 – Home churches vs mega churches
46:05 – What’s next: tours, screenings, and the stories they held back
47:32 – Guns, drugs & Cayman money drops — why they weren’t included (yet)
48:20 – Where to watch the series & final thoughts
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