We need to change the way we train cops!

In this episode, we sit down with Dustin Mowery and Don Wallis for an in-depth conversation about the modern evolution of firearms training. Dustin breaks down the classes he teaches today—working primarily with law enforcement officers, while also training civilians who want solid, real-world skills.

We cover Dustin’s popular vehicle encounter courses, the logic behind how they’re structured, and why they’re becoming essential in today’s training environment. We also dive into modern vs. old-school teaching methods, discussing what’s changed, what still works, and how instructors can stay relevant.

A big part of Dustin’s approach is his use of practical competition-style shooting to build efficiency, confidence, and performance under pressure. He explains how these skills translate directly into better decision-making for officers and students in real-world situations.

We also talk about Dustin’s life after retirement, including networking with other instructors, continuing to grow, and the challenges and opportunities of stepping into civilian-based training.

Whether you're in law enforcement, an instructor, or someone who wants a deeper understanding of how modern firearms training is evolving, this episode brings a ton of insight and firsthand experience.