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The Third Annual David Ray Griffin Lecture, which was held on Sunday, 14 December 2025 in honour of the late eminent 9/11 scholar, Dr. David Ray Griffin, who contributed immensely to the pursuit of truth and peace during his lifetime. This year’s lecture, entitled “9/11 Truth Today: A Social Movement at the Precipice,” will be given by Professor Richard G. Ellefritz. The lecture will be followed by a roundtable discussion with prominent 9/11 truth journalists and advocates Jason Bermas, James Corbett, Sandra Laratonda, and Madhava Setty, MD. The lecture is hosted by the International Center for 9/11 Justice and UK Column.
https://www.ukcolumn.org/event/third-annual-david-ray-griffin-lecture-richard-ellefritz

FDNY unveils plans to commemorate upcoming 25th anniversary of 9/11
https://nypost.com/2025/12/09/us-news/fdny-unveils-plans-to-commemorate-upcoming-25th-anniversary-of-9-11/
See also: https://www.nbcnewyork.com/video/on-air/as-seen-on/fdny-unveils-plan-to-mark-25-years-since-9-11-terror-attacks/6428309/

Candace Owens’ resurfaced “9/11 style attack” tweet sparks f ..
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/125956495.cms

Jimmy Dore makes 9/11 reference discussing the Charlie Kirk cover-up
https://www.facebook.com/reel/838058029206492

Pete Davidson to Offers Up Movie Premiere Tickets and His 1970 Chevrolet Truck in ‘Answer the Call’ 9/11 Sweepstakes Campaign
https://variety.com/2025/scene/news/pete-davidson-answer-the-call-fundraiser-sign-up-online-1236606908/
See also: https://alltroo.com/rally/pete-davidson-flash/

TPUSA said no to 9/11 Truth for the AmFest2023, but Charlie Kirk insisted Richard Gage attend
https://scontent.fagc1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/599160572_25557918680494755_1023075164191247730_n.jpg
See also: RG911 Delivers WTC Evidence in Spades to Conservatives at "America Fest" Convention in Phoenix, AZ
https://richardgage911.substack.com/p/rg911-volunteers-deliver-wtc-evidence

COMMENT of the YEAR: "They want us to believe Charlie's neck was made of steel and the twin towers were made of neck bones. Got it."
https://scontent.fagc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t51.82787-15/589045660_18398880919124399_6170919687508024553_n.webp

SYSTEM OF A DOWN Recall Toxicity Hitting No. 1 on 9/11
https://metalinjection.net/news/system-of-a-down-recall-toxicity-hitting-no-1-on-9-11

Nickelback’s breakout album dropped the morning of 9/11.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMEdy2g4Puc

Episode #5 of Crime Scene to Courtroom to be released by Christmas
https://911c2c.org/

NIST says there is no audio evidence of an explosion at Building 7 on 9/11. Gene shows how the most viewed video of WTC7, the Bikofsky video shows that not to be true
https://x.com/911Gene/status/1998601739172212895?s=20

Jon Stewart of the Daily Show shows how the new military industrial complex boss is the same as the old military industrial complex boss in a brilliant way
https://www.facebook.com/reel/2078961842852627

Mark Rossini on Boston 9/11 Truth 12-11-2025
https://rumble.com/v72x9ri-mark-rossini-on-boston-911-truth-12-11-2025.html
See also: Boston911Truth.org
Boston 9/11 Truth spotlight interviews
Rumble.com/Boston911Truth
To get an invite, please email Sue Serpa at [email protected].
Upcoming guests:
Jan 8 - Dr. Richard Ellefritz
Jan 22 - Dan Noel
Feb 5 - Sibel Edmonds

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=CHAT LOG==============
2025-12-14 17:00:52 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
I’ll share this really fun skiing video from a record breaking winter in Boston- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAcxbT1MRlQ

2025-12-14 17:02:44 From gerry B to Everyone:
Great Lecture - Watch it if you missed it.

2025-12-14 17:02:43 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
Happy Hanukkah- begins at sundown

2025-12-14 17:05:08 From benjamin to Everyone:
it was excellent

2025-12-14 17:07:28 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
Sounds like an early Christmas present! Looking forward to it!

2025-12-14 17:11:39 From Ex-Chief Christopher Gioia to Gene & Sandra | 911WarRoom.com (direct message):
Hi Gene, Hi Sandra!😀

2025-12-14 17:15:15 From Ex-Chief Christopher Gioia to Gene & Sandra | 911WarRoom.com (direct message):
I have to go to a wake soon, my next door neighbor died, so if I up and disappear that's where I went. I wasn't being rude.

2025-12-14 17:16:10 From Mike Zarzano-Palm Beach Oversight Committee to Everyone:
The issue of which topics is a whole other issue that has clear merit to a proper pathway

2025-12-14 17:16:53 From gerry B to Everyone:
We have to surely judge that on how many people they have woken up to 911 truth. Cannot fault Richard on that point.

2025-12-14 17:17:59 From gerry B to Everyone:
Totally petty

2025-12-14 17:17:58 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
How about “The Prophet of 9/11 Truth” for Richard?

2025-12-14 17:18:21 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
Maybe the “Preacher”?

2025-12-14 17:20:05 From gerry B to Everyone:
This is very apt to the lecture and discussion we just listened to.

2025-12-14 17:21:21 From gerry B to Everyone:
At this point, anyone focussing on matters that oppose the official account, yet divide the movement internally should take a long look at themselves in my opinion.

2025-12-14 17:23:22 From Ex-Chief Christopher Gioia to Everyone:
Richard is one of the founding fathers of the 911 truth movement. Nothing more and nothing less. Richard very much helped to set the table for all of us. No-one can take that away from him.

2025-12-14 17:24:38 From Brian Good to Everyone:
Fact Pattern is an established term of art in the legal industry. If Karl had been to law school he would know that.

2025-12-14 17:24:47 From Susan Serpa to Everyone:
Gene, don’t let Karl Trigger you.

2025-12-14 17:25:07 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
Replying to "Richard is one of the founding fathers of the 911 ...":
Founding Fathers might be the best approach- that way it’s shared, and if not for DRG, we wouldn’t have Richard Gage

2025-12-14 17:25:58 From Jon Olsen to Everyone:
Replying to "Richard is one of the founding fathers of the 911 ...":
Well stated Mike.

2025-12-14 17:27:10 From gerry B to Everyone:
All that asbestos in the elevator shafts.

2025-12-14 17:29:28 From Craig McKee to Everyone:
Replying to "Richard is one of the founding fathers of the 911 ...":
I have no desire to take anything from him, Chris. But David Ray Griffin's first book on 9/11 came out in 2004, and this is what kick started the movement. Richard heard one of his lectures in 2006 (I think), and he founded AE911Truth the following year. So it makes no sense to call Richard "the father" of the movement. That takes nothing away from his huge contribution.

2025-12-14 17:30:34 From Craig McKee to Everyone:
Replying to "How about “The Prophet of 9/11 Truth” for Richard?":
A joke, I assume?

2025-12-14 17:33:06 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
Replying to "How about “The Prophet of 9/11 Truth” for Richard?":
@Craig McKee Kinda, he has done a shit ton of preaching…. I think that the “found fathers” kinda covers it all, shares the credit, sounds patriotic

2025-12-14 17:34:31 From magnus langlete to Everyone:
20 seconds into the video. Explosion https://youtu.be/DINrUbtJykQ?si=kpgOkKNW4_sCd6DX

2025-12-14 17:34:54 From Craig McKee to Everyone:
Replying to "How about “The Prophet of 9/11 Truth” for Richard?":
@Michael Cook I think it does no good to come up with titles for people. Because when you do you inevitably leave someone out who also deserves major credit. How about Gage being a "pioneer" of the movement? That doesn't disrespect Griffin but still acknowledges his place?

2025-12-14 17:35:38 From magnus langlete to Everyone:
1 minute and 20 second into the video https://youtu.be/K92Pu82QzfY?si=sF5LlyXco2ZXSuqc

2025-12-14 17:35:42 From Richard Ellefritz to Everyone:
Dropping in to thank Sandra for her contributions today during the DRG Q&A.

2025-12-14 17:35:43 From Mike Zarzano-Palm Beach Oversight Committee to Everyone:
This needs to migrate to county and city halls

2025-12-14 17:35:54 From magnus langlete to Everyone:
Rudy https://youtu.be/XQ_-Sjy3ptA?si=xPnc1-r2e7ahDL1_

2025-12-14 17:36:43 From gerry B to Everyone:
Replying to "Dropping in to thank Sandra for her contributions ...":
Was a superb lecture Richard.

2025-12-14 17:36:47 From benjamin to Everyone:
yes!

2025-12-14 17:37:06 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
Replying to "How about “The Prophet of 9/11 Truth” for Richard?":
@Craig McKee During war, in battle, you’re not supposed to salute officers- makes them a target for snipers. This is a very different situation though.

2025-12-14 17:37:34 From magnus langlete to Everyone:
Firefighters two weeks ago https://youtu.be/46CmYX0NkvM?si=A-69jzGC0zIboJFf

2025-12-14 17:37:47 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
Replying to "This needs to migrate to county and city halls":
I’ve been trying…. Churches and Mosques too…

2025-12-14 17:38:17 From gerry B to Everyone:
How you remind me

2025-12-14 17:38:20 From Jon Olsen to Everyone:
Replying to "How about “The Prophet of 9/11 Truth” for Richard?":
Good point Craig

2025-12-14 17:41:57 From gerry B to Everyone:
I was surprised he didn't know about Iraq and the petrodollar.

2025-12-14 17:42:59 From gerry B to Everyone:
Agree with Barbara on that.

2025-12-14 17:44:08 From Ex-Chief Christopher Gioia to Everyone:
Craig, it doesn't matter who was putting it out there first. When the country was founded you had a few patriots who lit a fire and it spread to others who made it happen. That's the only thing that really matters. Anybody who wants to claim they initiated the 911 truth movement, needs to check their ego at the door. Just saying, and no offense meant to anyone. History can sort this out long after we are all dead.

2025-12-14 17:46:33 From Karl Golovin to Everyone:
Gene, I would like Sandra to explain her comments here in which I was tagged on Facebook. Also, as perhaps Sue Serpa will need to explain, what did they mean by calling me a "911Revisionist?"

2025-12-14 17:46:51 From Karl Golovin to Everyone:
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2025-12-14 17:48:00 From gerry B to Everyone:
That meeting might be the thing that makes Rossini go and look into the details more.

2025-12-14 17:50:10 From Susan Serpa to Everyone:
Replying to "Gene, I would like Sandra to explain her comments ...":
I did not say you were 9/11 Revisionist. In fact, I did not comment at all. Look at it again.

2025-12-14 17:52:11 From benjamin to Everyone:
agreed, Jon Cole is awesome for that

2025-12-14 17:52:43 From gerry B to Everyone:
Jon Cole sees the big picture

2025-12-14 17:52:44 From Mike Zarzano-Palm Beach Oversight Committee to Everyone:
Was Judy invited?

2025-12-14 17:52:58 From Karl Golovin to Everyone:
Replying to "Gene, I would like Sandra to explain her comments ...":
What did you say abiut me, Susan?

2025-12-14 17:53:47 From Craig McKee to Everyone:
Replying to "agreed, Jon Cole is awesome for that":
Unfortunately, when it comes to the Pentagon, Cole aligns himself with David Chandler and company, whose Pentagon arguments have no validity.

2025-12-14 17:54:33 From Susan Serpa to Everyone:
Replying to "Gene, I would like Sandra to explain her comments ...":
Ray wanted to know who was accusing me. I answered that you and 9/11 Revisionist were accusing me. I clarified and answered his question.

2025-12-14 17:56:05 From Ross Migrating Bird to Everyone:
I leaving and coming back...no audio

2025-12-14 17:58:32 From Ex-Chief Christopher Gioia to Everyone:
Judy Wood would make a great guest speaker at a Star Wars convention. She could explain in great detail how the Death Star operates. Very entertaining but no basis in reality.

2025-12-14 18:01:59 From gerry B to Everyone:
mike, you should go ahead and organise that

2025-12-14 18:05:00 From Karl Golovin to Everyone:
Replying to "Gene, I would like Sandra to explain her comments ...":
Sue, show what actual WORDS in our private email you say "accused" you? You ACCUSED yourself!

2025-12-14 18:09:34 From Ex-Chief Christopher Gioia to Everyone:
I hope so Barbara! That would be something indeed.

2025-12-14 18:11:27 From Mike Zarzano-Palm Beach Oversight Committee to Everyone:
15 states are forcing 911 lies be taught in schools k-12

2025-12-14 18:16:17 From Ex-Chief Christopher Gioia to Everyone:
I have to leave and get ready to go to a wake. I wish everyone a very Merry Christmas.

2025-12-14 18:16:23 From Mike Zarzano-Palm Beach Oversight Committee to Everyone:
Models won’t penetrate the public wall of cognitive dissonance

2025-12-14 18:17:06 From Mike Zarzano-Palm Beach Oversight Committee to Everyone:
Lying to school children with forced 911 curriculum will

2025-12-14 18:20:19 From gerry B to Everyone:
6.1/3 tons for the panel stuck into the building

2025-12-14 18:20:46 From benjamin to Everyone:
YouTube channel Kostack Studio did what they call a simulation (more like animation) that tried to support the gravity driven hypothesis for the rapid total collapse of the towers, it got over 1m views in 2 months, it would be awesome to have a quantifiably justified counter-simulation that shows that using realistic input values would not actually result in such a collapse

2025-12-14 18:21:05 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
Replying to "6.1/3 tons for the panel stuck into the building":
That’s a heck of a lot of lateral force…

2025-12-14 18:21:28 From gerry B to Everyone:
Replying to "YouTube channel Kostack Studio did what they call ...":
I listed the elements missing from that animation - I have a copy of it somewhere

2025-12-14 18:21:45 From benjamin to Everyone:
Replying to "YouTube channel Kostack Studio did what they call ...":
awesome!

2025-12-14 18:22:02 From gerry B to Everyone:
Replying to "YouTube channel Kostack Studio did what they call ...":
Mick West was pushing it

2025-12-14 18:22:09 From benjamin to Everyone:
Replying to "YouTube channel Kostack Studio did what they call ...":
he would! haha

2025-12-14 18:23:00 From Brian Good to Everyone:
Replying to "6.1/3 tons for the panel stuck into the building":
The truthaction guys put forth the principle that in the absence of paystub evidence, accusing anyone of being an agent is out of line.

2025-12-14 18:29:31 From Brian Good to Everyone:
Replying to "6.1/3 tons for the panel stuck into the building":
We're getting to the point where AI bots are going to draw us into online debates to waste our time.

2025-12-14 18:29:51 From benjamin to Everyone:
Replying to "agreed, Jon Cole is awesome for that":
can you send me a link to that list you created? I'd be interested to review it

2025-12-14 18:30:02 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
Replying to "6.1/3 tons for the panel stuck into the building":
I don’t mean to be critical, but that’s naive as hell…. They use people all the time without paying them…. “Oh, you’re 5th DUI?!? That sucks! We can make that go away”. You’re about to lose your house?, we can take care of that” etc.

2025-12-14 18:30:20 From gerry B to Everyone:
Replying to "agreed, Jon Cole is awesome for that":
I'll look for it. I will send you my email on X so you have it.

2025-12-14 18:30:47 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
Replying to "6.1/3 tons for the panel stuck into the building":
Your not you’re

2025-12-14 18:35:05 From Karl Golovin to Everyone:
First 9 minutes CLEAR example of gatekeeping on JFK, including zoom calls. https://youtu.be/i9svGvOrKhA?si=lt9Kyi2rcz60-CdR

2025-12-14 18:37:00 From Mike to Everyone:
Accepting in DEW etc. into our position.... is pure well poison.

Disinfo and misinfo that is a minority, and the presentation of our evidence should not accommodate such.....

But yes, stick to evidence. What we know didn't happen, and also what we know did....

2025-12-14 18:37:55 From benjamin to Everyone:
shift the burden of proof back to the investigative bodies responsible, exposing all the gaps and contradictions they left in their final reports

2025-12-14 18:38:53 From benjamin to Everyone:
yeah, all those pentagon videos still under lock and key

2025-12-14 18:39:04 From Karl Golovin to Everyone:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DR_NL3okQEU/?igsh=aGMxNDh3YzF6NmY3

2025-12-14 18:39:26 From gerry B to Everyone:
veSAMs all over it

2025-12-14 18:40:05 From Karl Golovin to Everyone:
"Set up"

2025-12-14 18:40:59 From gerry B to Everyone:
The North tower lobby and B level damage is the weak point in NISTs tower story and is as big a point as freefall in WTC7

2025-12-14 18:42:14 From Jon Olsen to Everyone:
Very good, Mike. solid evidence

2025-12-14 18:42:42 From gerry B to Everyone:
We want a reinvestigation being agreed to - THEN we can talk about strategy rather than trying to cover all the bases before that potential investigation happens.

2025-12-14 18:43:01 From Jon Olsen to Everyone:
Include Prof. Hulsey too.

2025-12-14 18:43:42 From Karl Golovin to Everyone:
pic-b7bb12ee-265e-44ee-9c2e-812b5364220a.jpg

2025-12-14 18:44:28 From gerry B to Everyone:
NIST said their analysis suffered from a lack of computational efficiency. Computational efficiency has improved in 20 years - THAT justifies a revisit of the analysis.

2025-12-14 18:45:03 From gerry B to Everyone:
I have a better PC set up with SAP now than NIST did in 2004

2025-12-14 18:45:12 From gerry B to Everyone:
And so do most of us.

2025-12-14 18:47:21 From Mike to Everyone:
https://www.memorialmapping.com/casualties-by-country

2025-12-14 18:49:41 From Jon Olsen to Everyone:
Heading out now. good night all.

2025-12-14 18:49:59 From Mike to Everyone:
They won't go there. But visibility and input comment means would be good.

But too many cooks has positives and drawbacks.

Maybe we can proposed established model.

2025-12-14 18:50:42 From gerry B to Everyone:
Disagree, there has to be a small group who decides, and we simply have to trust them.

2025-12-14 18:51:05 From Mike to Everyone:
*propose some established models... I do trust Ted and Piers etc to do us well.

2025-12-14 18:53:02 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
I liked the idea of previous activism reports, the call has gone on plenty long. I’ll write something up and put it up on substack with everything else, good Lord willing and the creek don’t rise. <3

2025-12-14 18:55:02 From Mike Zarzano-Palm Beach Oversight Committee to Everyone:
Spectacular book!

2025-12-14 18:59:40 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
I’m not seeing these promised links in the chat… Maybe I missed it, lots going on here. If I can look back I can look some more.

2025-12-14 18:59:55 From gerry B to Everyone:
Look up "Godwins Law" for hitler in debates...

2025-12-14 19:00:46 From gerry B to Everyone:
enya

2025-12-14 19:01:19 From Susan Serpa to Everyone:
Replying to "I’m not seeing these promised links in the chat… M...":
Is this it?
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DR_NL3okQEU/?igsh=aGMxNDh3YzF6NmY3

2025-12-14 19:02:34 From Karl Golovin to Everyone:
https://youtu.be/i9svGvOrKhA?si=-yxYr9MpgmcczcbN

2025-12-14 19:03:03 From Karl Golovin to Everyone:
Barbara here is Oliver Stone/ Morley Q&A

2025-12-14 19:04:49 From gerry B to Everyone:
great movie

2025-12-14 19:05:34 From Karl Golovin to Everyone:
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2025-12-14 19:07:16 From Karl Golovin to Everyone:
Article ref "Explaining 9/11 to the FBI" and Arnon Milchan:
https://www.unz.com/kbarrett/philippe-de-vulpillieres-israeli-spy-arnon-milchan-was-9-11-mastermind/

2025-12-14 19:07:47 From gerry B to Everyone:
I think it reflects the lack of hard evidence that we have been given about the pentagon

2025-12-14 19:08:36 From gerry B to Everyone:
YOu have not made that case.

2025-12-14 19:08:54 From Brian Good to Everyone:
Replying to "agreed, Jon Cole is awesome for that":
@Craig McKee That's your opinion, Craig, and without substantiation it's worthless.

2025-12-14 19:09:05 From gerry B to Everyone:
I am going by the structural damage that I see

2025-12-14 19:09:53 From benjamin to Everyone:
Replying to "I am going by the structural damage that I see":
same here

2025-12-14 19:11:23 From gerry B to Everyone:
Imagine you are planning the pentagon and making it look like a plane but not using a plane - the risks the extent you have to go to in order to set it up. These people were prepared to run 2 planes into the towers after all. Why would they take that chance ?

2025-12-14 19:12:20 From gerry B to Everyone:
There are 6 from Scotland that I know if.

2025-12-14 19:12:32 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
It’s always good to consider timing. We had 9/11 blogger come out with a major attack on CIT, I was banned from there for supporting them and I still do, very solidly. Then the David Chandler position and DRG’s pushing the consensus came out. Ta Da!

2025-12-14 19:14:08 From Mike to Everyone:
For other nations with some standing.
https://www.memorialmapping.com/casualties-by-country

2025-12-14 19:14:19 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
The first 9/11 truth site, as far as I know, was “Hunt The Boing”, from France I think. There was zero disagreement that I was aware of in the early days of the movement- no plane hit the Pentagon. The point that nothing should have come near the Pentagon is very valid and was made by DRG.

2025-12-14 19:14:48 From gerry B to Everyone:
If we take any firm stance on the Pentagon what is there to stop them faking video evidence that opposes that stance ? If we presume that they faked that a plane hit it - why would they not fake the evidence to discredit any firm stance - Whether Craigs or Chandlers ?

2025-12-14 19:16:44 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
Replying to "If we take any firm stance on the Pentagon what i...":
Yes, they are very good at faking things, obviously. I’m just saying, that’s some stuff that happened. I think that reviewing CIT’s work helps settle one into a very firm position- eyewitness testimony from reliable sources. National Security Alert- I recommend checking it out.

2025-12-14 19:17:16 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
Replying to "If we take any firm stance on the Pentagon what i...":
CIT stands for Citizens Investigation Team

2025-12-14 19:18:58 From Craig McKee to Everyone:
Replying to "agreed, Jon Cole is awesome for that":
@Brian Good I have plenty of evidence for what I have to say. What do you have?

2025-12-14 19:19:52 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
Replying to "If we take any firm stance on the Pentagon what i...":
https://www.citizeninvestigationteam.com/videos/national-security-alert

2025-12-14 19:20:19 From Brian Good to Everyone:
Replying to "agreed, Jon Cole is awesome for that":
Craig, you mistake your unsubstantiated opinions for evidence.

2025-12-14 19:21:51 From Craig McKee to Everyone:
Replying to "If we take any firm stance on the Pentagon what i...":
We've heard this claim from Chandler and company for many years. But how could the government come up with faked footage after maintaining for years that no other footage exists?

2025-12-14 19:23:55 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
As I remember it, there were 17 warnings from 11 different governments, and Russia sent us more than anyone else. I think it was 4. Why in the hell they don’t call this out is way beyond me… Sounds like psychotic 5D chess… no common sense, which is very unusual coming from Russia…

2025-12-14 19:24:18 From Mike to Everyone:
Thanks Barbara and sorry for my headphone issue. No idea if I was talking over you or others, as my audio in dropped at first!

2025-12-14 19:25:17 From gerry B to Everyone:
YOu don't know that

2025-12-14 19:25:20 From Mike to Everyone:
Shaped charges

2025-12-14 19:26:06 From Mike to Everyone:
I have two people I have talked with there during, and after. Neither believe a plane or a missile. Both believe bombs in the Pentagon.

2025-12-14 19:27:38 From gerry B to Everyone:
AMEC I think did the upgrade to the office of naval accounting

2025-12-14 19:27:46 From gerry B to Everyone:
UK company

2025-12-14 19:28:47 From gerry B to Everyone:
I'd like to hear someone who knows about structues try to make that point

2025-12-14 19:31:26 From Mike to Everyone:
Talked and derailed enough. No need to hit me up at end..✌️

2025-12-14 19:31:40 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
Replying to "AMEC I think did the upgrade to the office of nava...":
The office of naval intelligence was apparently hot on the heals of 9/11 and were moved directly next to the accountants and records looking into the missing 2.3 trillion shortly before the attack. There were a couple of survivors, two if I remember right, who were not in the building when it went down.

2025-12-14 19:32:07 From Mike to Everyone:
Does anyone have contact with BEN SWANN? I can't get him...

2025-12-14 19:32:16 From gerry B to Everyone:
Fetzer has his contact details.2

2025-12-14 19:32:47 From gerry B to Everyone:
Bollyns I mean

2025-12-14 19:33:27 From Mike to Everyone:
Can we find a way to enable direct messages here? Gerry B

2025-12-14 19:34:20 From gerry B to Everyone:
mike, ask Gene to give you my email if he has yours.

2025-12-14 19:35:49 From Karl Golovin to Everyone:
"No fighting in the War Room!!!"
https://youtube.com/shorts/aLUOTeJOEdc?si=1FBmE235VFXLMAaG

2025-12-14 19:35:54 From Mike to Everyone:
Oh crap, he did lone guman? Laid out some "aspects" of 9/11 flat out....

2025-12-14 19:38:22 From Brian Good to Everyone:
A lot of people in the truth movement seem to have difficulty in distinguishing between their opinions and facts.

2025-12-14 19:41:08 From benjamin to Everyone:
https://youtu.be/ZGZAShYP88o?si=xZFwO_T5zDvwMG_B

2025-12-14 19:41:50 From gerry B to Everyone:
freefall varies with the earths shape which debunks flat earth

2025-12-14 19:42:09 From gerry B to Everyone:
most think it is a constant

2025-12-14 19:44:01 From benjamin to Everyone:
I really like the band Deftones and their guitarist is a flat earther.... too much weed lol

2025-12-14 19:44:33 From gerry B to Everyone:
Emailed you Mike - Thanks Sue

2025-12-14 19:44:53 From benjamin to Everyone:
Replying to "freefall varies with the earths shape which debunk...":
I actually even struggle to understand what flat earthers actually believe, its so nuts!

2025-12-14 19:46:24 From Michael Cook to Everyone:
Replying to "freefall varies with the earths shape which debunk...":
@benjamin It’s a psyop, and some buy into it legitimately.

2025-12-14 19:47:22 From gerry B to Everyone:
Thanks Gene

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