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in th book of daniel there wa a vision of a ram and a He Goat. Who were they and who attacked first and give us the endtime imolication is that WW3>?
The vision you’re referring to is from Daniel 8, one of the most symbolically rich chapters in the Hebrew Bible. Let’s break it down clearly and then talk about the “end‑time” angle without drifting into fear‑based speculation.

🐏 Who Is the Ram?
Daniel 8:20 explicitly interprets the ram:

The ram = The kings of Media and Persia
This is the Medo‑Persian Empire, which ruled from about 539–331 BCE.

The ram has two horns, one higher than the other—symbolizing Persia eventually becoming dominant over Media.

🐐 Who Is the He‑Goat?
Daniel 8:21 also interprets the goat:

The goat = The king of Greece
The “notable horn” is widely understood to be Alexander the Great.

Alexander’s lightning‑fast conquest of Persia matches the goat “coming from the west… and not touching the ground.”

⚔️ Who Attacked First?
In the vision:

The goat (Greece) attacks the ram (Persia) first.

The goat charges with “furious power” and shatters the ram.

Historically, this matches Alexander’s invasion of the Persian Empire beginning in 334 BCE.

🔮 End‑Time Implications — What Does This Symbolize?
This is where interpretations diverge. There are three major schools of thought:

1️⃣ Historical Interpretation (Most Scholars)
Daniel 8 is not about the end of the world, but about:

Persia

Greece

The rise of Antiochus IV Epiphanes (the “little horn”)

The desecration of the Jewish Temple (167 BCE)

In this view, the prophecy was fulfilled long ago.

2️⃣ Dual‑Fulfillment Interpretation (Common in Evangelical Circles)
This view says:

The prophecy had a historical fulfillment (Persia → Greece → Antiochus)

But also a future echo involving:

A final world ruler (often called “Antichrist”)

A future desecration of a temple

A time of global turmoil

However, even in this view, Daniel 8 is not describing WW3.
It’s describing a future political-religious conflict, not a global nuclear war.

3️⃣ Islamic‑Empire Interpretation (Minority View)
Some argue the ram = Iran and the goat = a Western power today.
But this is not supported by the text, because Daniel 8 names the empires directly.

❗ Is Daniel 8 Predicting World War III?
Short answer: No.

Daniel 8 is not a prophecy about:

Modern nations

Nuclear war

World War III

The United States

Russia

China

The chapter is very specific and already fulfilled historically.

Even those who see a future “echo” do not interpret it as a global war between superpowers.

🌅 So What Is the End‑Time Message?
Daniel 8’s real takeaway is:

Empires rise and fall