Episode 10: Marlena Pavlos-Hackney

Marlena Pavlos-Hackney is a small business owner in Michigan who has been publicly critical of Governor Gretchen Whitmer’s draconian lockdown orders. Shortly before she was scheduled to appear on Fox News to air her grievances and argue on behalf of her desire to keep her business open, Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel sent an email asking if she can be “picked up” for violating the lockdown orders. Lo and behold, she was pulled over and arrested on her way to work. In this episode, she tells her compelling story of becoming a victim of government repression. Phill’s daughter, Jacqueline, also joins the conversation to discuss the fundamental principles that are threatened by the overreach of public officials.