Force-on-Force Reality

In this episode of Gun Talk Nation, host Ryan Gresham sits down with legends Julie Golob and Fred Mastison as they walk through real-world force-on-force scenarios sponsored by CCW Safe. These aren’t textbook engagements — they’re messy, evolving, morally heavy, and legally loaded. What tipped points get you to draw? Shoot? How do you balance de-escalation, emotional burden, and post-incident fallout?

Expect:
Raw discussion about regret, hesitation, and mental scars
A closer look at what civilian concealed carriers rarely consider
Breakdowns of simulated assaults, home intrusions, and unexpected role-player interactions
What CCW Safe teaches about the aftermath, not just the firefight
Legal, civil, and emotional dimensions you didn’t know you needed to think about

This Gun Talk Nation is brought to you by Range Ready Studios, Safariland, Inglis Manufacturing, and Guns & Gear.

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Gun Talk Media's Gun Talk Nation with Ryan Gresham is a weekly multi-platform podcast that offers a fresh look at all things firearms-related. Featuring notable guests and a lot of laughs. Gun Talk Nation is available as an audio podcast or in video format.

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